New Everton Stadium

[kithnou]

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How great would it look on the docks by the Mersey, yet how average in Croxteth

 

[hallamblue]

Couldnt we buy the arena as well? Stadium for larger events and arena for the smaller ones.

The council wouldn't sell it. There are 2 conference centres and the arena, and they bring a lot of income into the city.

 

[Jags]

As someone who hasn't explored Liverpool fully over my short time here, does waterside mean very close to Liverpool One?

 

[hibbo'sclass]

The revenue generation potential of a Waterfront stadium would be significantly higher than one on a brownfield site miles out of town, I think that's a given mate.

Whether the increased cost of the build and thus the increased funding costs could be balanced by the increment is the key factor - combined with whether the owner is prepared to take a longer term view. As a club with that sort of facility - that was also competing well on the pitch, would (you'd think) have to offer a higher potential value as a business over time.

Agree mate.
What do you see as the significant differences in costs (presumably identical stadiums) other than land?
Would imagine infrastructure contributions if applicable, and variations in grants.

Edit. Groundworks for different land types

 

[hallamblue]

As someone who hasn't explored Liverpool fully over my short time here, does waterside mean very close to Liverpool One?

Depends which bit of the waterfront, but potentially quite close.

 

[Jags]

Depends which bit of the waterfront, but potentially quite close.

Again far from an expert here, but where is the room!?

Isn't the city fairly built up around that area? Wouldn't we have to buy out shops for their space?

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Last season we came up for the Wolfsburg game and spent the day in Liverpool ahead of the game. Wondered around the dock area and you could see that the gift shops there had a lot of red and blue in the window, but much more red than blue. Upon closer inspection, most of the blue turned out to be Chelsea stuff. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry, but in the end I chose cry. The small amount of Everton stuff in the window had the old crest on it as well.

This lack of profile in the club's own city is pretty shocking. From now, the possible ground move, the future retail, marketing, commercial and corporate hospitality decisions have to be one huge exercise in joined up thinking.

 

[edge]

Again far from an expert here, but where is the room!?

Isn't the city fairly built up around that area? Wouldn't we have to buy out shops for their space?

Its not by the shops its further north , disused dockland

 

[Khalekan]

You can knock up a fancy stadium graphic in 30 mins, that's really not important. To say the 'only' things left are land and infrastructure is like saying 'the plans for my time machine are all in place, I've selected the vehicle, it's just the concept and implementation of time travel that needs sorting out.'

lol lol lol

Very funny, pardner

 

[edge]

Last season we came up for the Wolfsburg game and spent the day in Liverpool ahead of the game. Wondered around the dock area and you could see that the gift shops there had a lot of red and blue in the window, but much more red than blue. Upon closer inspection, most of the blue turned out to be Chelsea stuff. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry, but in the end I chose cry. The small amount of Everton stuff in the window had the old crest on it as well.

This lack of profile in the club's own city is pretty shocking. From now, the possible ground move, the future retail, marketing, commercial and corporate hospitality decisions have to be one huge exercise in joined up thinking.

A lot of that was due to the kitbag deal only aviable online ect

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Agree mate.
What do you see as the significant differences in costs (presumably identical stadiums) other than land?
Would imagine infrastructure contributions if applicable, and variations in grants.

Edit. Groundworks for different land types

Assuming there was no additional engineering challenges by building on the waterfront e.g. increased piling etc. Then I'd imagine the incremental costs would be the ground works - drainage etc (as we'd be the first in) together with access roads. I'd also suggest that any negotiations with Peel would involve us trying to leverage the fact that our presence there could kick start the entire project, and thus we'd be seeking to offset some of this cost.

In addition, I'd imagine that there'd be both external pressure and internal expectation, that any waterfront stadium was of a more iconic nature in terms of it's design, than a brownfield alternative.

 

[Khalekan]

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The looks like the mother ship from V or Independence Day.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Andersson probably ment: "go along with LCCs preferred plans (SC) and you should and could have stadium up and running in three years

 

[ToffeeDoug]

A lot of that was due to the kitbag deal only aviable online ect

This was more souvenir stuff, pennants, pen sets, small footballs, coffee mugs, baby bibs, you know the sort of stuff.

 

[Khalekan]

Last season we came up for the Wolfsburg game and spent the day in Liverpool ahead of the game. Wondered around the dock area and you could see that the gift shops there had a lot of red and blue in the window, but much more red than blue. Upon closer inspection, most of the blue turned out to be Chelsea stuff. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry, but in the end I chose cry. The small amount of Everton stuff in the window had the old crest on it as well.

This lack of profile in the club's own city is pretty shocking. From now, the possible ground move, the future retail, marketing, commercial and corporate hospitality decisions have to be one huge exercise in joined up thinking.

That is Kitbag.

Disgraceful our club sunk so low we had to do a deal with them to punt merchandise.