New Everton Stadium

[tommye]

Tommye where's my daily fix?

Sorry mate. Was in Middleton today and never got back until late due to traffic. Feeeeeewwwmin.

 

[Dr Baxter]

…yep, born in Leeds. Seems his slave trade wealth was earned whilst living in Brazil. Stood as a Tory in Liverpool & wasn’t elected, thankfully some things haven’t changed.

I do believe Liverpool City Council was Tory up until the the 70's (or was it the 60's?).

 

[Eggs]

I do believe Liverpool City Council was Tory up until the the 70's (or was it the 60's?).

…there was certainly a prolonged time not so long ago when the Liberals ran the city.

 

[Richard Alex]

That divvy Tony Evans of such reputable publications as "The South China Morning Post" was ranting last week that the only people pushing the agenda of JFT39 were Tories and/or Evertonians.

That it was, and will sadly remain, a travesty of justice holds no meaning for his like.

He actually describes himself as "Hooligan" in his Twitter bio, amongst other things.

I think by calling him a divvy you have summed up this Pratt perfectly mate.

 

[allen]

Why they training at Goodison? Some open day thing?

Stadium tour! Wanted to show the kids around before it’s too late.

 

[Davideeyore]

I’ve just listened to this… wish I hadn’t.

They are talking about an opportunity for Everton etc etc. At one point I heard George Floyd mentioned. It all seems a bit forced to me and they seem to treat Liverpool people as if we are thick.

Anyone from Liverpool will know about the slave trade and how our port was one of the most used ports for the import and export of slaves. Bramley Moore as a man lived what? Almost 200 years ago, to say times have changed since then is an understatement.

It’s almost like they are talking a load of nonsense without actually saying what they want the conclusion to be. My own conclusion is that of course slavery was bad, however it was acceptable at the time, and massive business. We can’t just forget about the name ‘Bramley Moore’ because it has slave trade roots, we might aswell re write the history of the city. In my opinion the stadium should be called the Bramley Moore Dock, I think anyone who finds this racist or condoning racism needs to get a grip. Things are different, times are different, however the site is called Bramley Moore, end of.

It's a cheap shot at Everton FC.

Part of me thinks Everton don't need to say or do anything but it's the right thing to do for Everton to acknowledge BM and what his role was. But equally
there's only so much we can say or do. This is about a stuff we can't change. It's history. It's part of what Liverpool is built on part of what the British Empire is built on. It is a bit narrow minded to hold Everton accountable. I also think stuff like taking his name out is like rewriting history, whitewashing. If Everton were not moving, or not moving here, what would be the story then? Empty dock slave trader. #historyofthePortofLiverpool

 

[blulouie]

It's a cheap shot at Everton FC.

Part of me thinks Everton don't need to say or do anything but it's the right thing to do for Everton to acknowledge BM and what his role was. But equally
there's only so much we can say or do. This is about a stuff we can't change. It's history. It's part of what Liverpool is built on part of what the British Empire is built on. It is a bit narrow minded to hold Everton accountable. I also think stuff like taking his name out is like rewriting history, whitewashing. If Everton were not moving, or not moving here, what would be the story then? Empty dock slave trader. #historyofthePortofLiverpool

I don't think the term accountable is what they are advocating.
It's more to do with make Everton Fc Guilty by association, which would have far longer ramifications.
Imagine that hung over the club for generations to come.
I wasn't too fussed wether the club responded to the Arthritic piece , but now there's other factors trying to take this further the club needs to act swiftly to nip this in the bud.

 

[Sharpies volley]

Haven't read or heard the article but reading the reactions to it, it sounds to me like it's a load of bitterness. Most of Liverpool and lots of other parts of the world were built on the slave trade. As abhorrent as it was, what do we do, knock everything down. We haven't even learned from history as slavery is still happening in the 21st century and must be stamped out. This fella would best be putting his efforts into getting something done about modern day slavery.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Good grief
Guilty by association
...all the things they have been guilty of, and its us that should be ashamed???

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

I'll give it some thought when I'm cheering the blues on in the best stadium in the land.

 

[davek]

Imagine writing a 4,000 word historical article when all he really wanted to do say was "Yer 'kin Bitterz!!!"!

What a 'kin throbber Hughes is.

He needs to go and write about 1985 not 1785.

 

[Sweeneytoad]

I wonder if there's a correlation between Everton slur stories and when Liverpool are going through a run of poor results.

 

[Leylo]

Not arsed what anyone writing anything, were getting a boss stadium on the Mersey and the other shower have taken the piss and put obstacles in the way (LFC Mafia). take a look at the photos and videos on here it's on its way smile everyone with a middle finger up.

 

[tommye]

 

[Bez2k2k]

I wonder if in 200 years they will say the stadium was built by a mostly white work force, therefore it’s racist. I would if anyone with any Russian involvement ever will be seen almost as bad as someone supporting the Nazi’s. The point I’m making is that until you become part of history, you aren’t one. The history of John Bramley Moore had some slave trade involvement, it’s happened, it was ages ago, educate people not tarnish. However, the articles and athletic voice interview just seems all over the place.

I think what they are trying to say is;

‘Everton have bought land that was named after a man involved in the slave trade, therefore racist and therefore Everton have to do everything they can to distance themselves from that man and create their own history there’.

However, not one person actually says this. It’s seems a big bundle of everything racist that’s happened in the last few years, balled up and booted Everton’s way. Why even mention George Floyd? Why? Something that happened in America, recently, involving Police. Nothing to do with the Bramley Moore dock, nothing to do with football, nothing to do with England. Racism, yes, but completely off topic.

 

[davek]

I wonder if in 200 years they will say the stadium was built by a mostly white work force, therefore it’s racist. I would if anyone with any Russian involvement ever will be seen almost as bad as someone supporting the Nazi’s. The point I’m making is that until you become part of history, you aren’t one. The history of John Bramley Moore had some slave trade involvement, it’s happened, it was ages ago, educate people not tarnish. However, the articles and athletic voice interview just seems all over the place.

I think what they are trying to say is;

‘Everton have bought land that was named after a man involved in the slave trade, therefore racist and therefore Everton have to do everything they can to distance themselves from that man and create their own history there’.

However, not one person actually says this. It’s seems a big bundle of everything racist that’s happened in the last few years, balled up and booted Everton’s way. Why even mention George Floyd? Why? Something that happened in America, recently, involving Police. Nothing to do with the Bramley Moore dock, nothing to do with football, nothing to do with England. Racism, yes, but completely off topic.

The fact that O'Keeffe and Boyland the 'Everton' correspondents retweeted it is more of an issue.

They all but endorsed a thinly veiled attack on Everton and Everton supporters.

It is as serious as it gets for two people looking to catch the attention of Evertonians for their articles in that rag.

Boycott them.