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Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
The albert
The Albert Dock is adjacent to the Pier Head, the 3 graces and is facing Liverpool one. It is literally the centre of Liverpool. I get the point that the city centre has spread into the Baltic triangle area but I always felt that it was nominally bound by the inner ring road of Parliament street in the south and Leeds St in the North. BMD is a similar distance from the Pier Head as Brunswick Dk.... I'm not sure that anyone considers that as part of the city centre despite already being developed.
The original outline plans for Liverpool waters had skyscrapers along much of the waterfront. This has long been greatly watered down. Perhaps bookending the scheme with a stadium instead of relatively low density marinas/residential will be a catalyst for bigger developments at that end too. This may provide the seismic shift to prompt the type of public transport infrastructure needed for the area to be really considered part of the city centre.
The Albert Dock is adjacent to the Pier Head, the 3 graces and is facing Liverpool one. It is literally the centre of Liverpool. I get the point that the city centre has spread into the Baltic triangle area but I always felt that it was nominally bound by the inner ring road of Parliament street in the south and Leeds St in the North. BMD is a similar distance from the Pier Head as Brunswick Dk.... I'm not sure that anyone considers that as part of the city centre despite already being developed.
The original outline plans for Liverpool waters had skyscrapers along much of the waterfront. This has long been greatly watered down. Perhaps bookending the scheme with a stadium instead of relatively low density marinas/residential will be a catalyst for bigger developments at that end too. This may provide the seismic shift to prompt the type of public transport infrastructure needed for the area to be really considered part of the city centre.
Noggsy blue
Player Valuation: £6m
Great pics mate
Can't see the area ever being classed as part of the city centre/town, just a touch too far, but it will grow to be a destination in its own right and have its own unique identity, with the ten streets area & the docks it has far more potential than the likes of the Baltic Triangle. Will grow to be busy even when we aren't playing.
Sounds a bit like the city centre then, doesn't it?
The Skyscrapers were probably watered down to try and keep Unesco happy.
Now that is not an issue anymore we might see plans in the future for them.
His heart is set on it. From the horses mouth.
Although it was always in the city centre, the Albert Dock was a working dock for over 100+ years and was not part of the city centre. Even when it was derelict for decades it was still in the city centre but not part of it. It became part of the city centre only in the early 80's when it opened with shops, bars and apartments. At that point in time the city centre became just that little bit bigger.
Brilliant. So much better than anything we could have done at Goodsion Park.
toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
The progress is terrifiic.
Living as I do in London I cannot help but think that if this was down here a mix of private and public money would already be lined up for eg a river bus service and a new Merseyrail station to optimise the investment and regeneration. There would almost certainly already be more investors coming forward to develop Peel’s plots of land back towards the central waterfront.
But it is Liverpool and an unhelpful government. Can the assorted local politicos do more to use the stadium to boost the marketing of the city and ‘Liverpool Waters’ (maybe with a hypothetical Labour government from late 2024) to enable some of this? If so it will extend the ‘waterfront’ region into a destination in its own right. Not the ‘city centre’ but well enough connected that it feels like it.
Living as I do in London I cannot help but think that if this was down here a mix of private and public money would already be lined up for eg a river bus service and a new Merseyrail station to optimise the investment and regeneration. There would almost certainly already be more investors coming forward to develop Peel’s plots of land back towards the central waterfront.
But it is Liverpool and an unhelpful government. Can the assorted local politicos do more to use the stadium to boost the marketing of the city and ‘Liverpool Waters’ (maybe with a hypothetical Labour government from late 2024) to enable some of this? If so it will extend the ‘waterfront’ region into a destination in its own right. Not the ‘city centre’ but well enough connected that it feels like it.
James Patrick
Player Valuation: £5m
Had one left to do at 4pm.
Although it's never going to be anything like the same scale, the analogue I always think of is Docklands in London, for obvious reasons.
That's gone from total wasteland to a second City of London in 35 years.
1987:
Today:
... and while it hasn't stretched The City three miles further down the Thames, it has created a totally separate city centre, essentially.
Best-case, we're looking at a mini version of this - though improved transport links are crucial to its success.
As you say, though, London has everything going for it from an investment perspective. Merseyside has to battle for what it can get.
tommye
Player Valuation: £100m
The City Centre isnt actually the centre of the City either but hey ho.