New Everton Stadium

[OneTrueLegend]

some of the structure was maintained

I'm sure that when we were looking at going to Kirkby, the plan was to knock all of Goodison down and build houses.

I think what they did with Highbury is cool. But if you look at what happens with most old stadiums in the UK, they often get completely knocked down and the site used for houses. It's a different proposition in London, I'm sure those flats go for millions of pounds, but they wouldn't do if they were in L4

 

[Eggs]

.....funny enough I had full access to the stadium this morning and the dressing rooms and infrastructure at Goodison is way short of a standard you would expect in the top flight. Whilst it was great to get out on the pitch, the lads I was with were saying there are better facilities at some local grounds and it can't look impressive when trying to attract new signings.

 

[royalblue66]

.....funny enough I had full access to the stadium this morning and the dressing rooms and infrastructure at Goodison is way short of a standard you would expect in the top flight. Whilst it was great to get out on the pitch, the lads I was with were saying there are better facilities at some local grounds and it can't look impressive when trying to attract new signings.[/

Was the tour guide an ex player,Eggs. ?

 

[Eggs]

.....I wasn't on a tour. My son played there this morning so I had access to all areas, I couldn't resist smashing a few in the Gwladys St myself.

 

[Caolam]

If the stadium is to be used a a lever for regeneration it has to be more than a football ground. Stadiums can be dead spaces for most of the week attracting people only on match days. Sticking us out in an industrial area on the edge of town is a very easy option. The new ground should be seen as an opportunity for the city as a whole,not as a problem. It appears as if the council are treating it as something toxic.
The ground needs to sold as a community hub, something much more than Everton playing at home on Saturdays and the occasional Wednesday.
This is major investment into the city, we should be talking to government not just the city council. The new stadium seems to be treated like an Everton problem.

 

[bizzaro]

If the stadium is to be used a a lever for regeneration it has to be more than a football ground. Stadiums can be dead spaces for most of the week attracting people only on match days. Sticking us out in an industrial area on the edge of town is a very easy option. The new ground should be seen as an opportunity for the city as a whole,not as a problem. It appears as if the council are treating it as something toxic.
The ground needs to sold as a community hub, something much more than Everton playing at home on Saturdays and the occasional Wednesday.
This is major investment into the city, we should be talking to government not just the city council. The new stadium seems to be treated like an Everton problem.

Quite right this.

The worry is that the Joe Anderson LCC administration treat EFC like a 1970'small pariah

Rather than what it is.

A socio economic hub. That brings in business but provides some aminities to local people also.

The Joe Anderson administration like to talk in buzz words. But they are clueless.

 

[Kiwi]

Quite right this.

The worry is that the Joe Anderson LCC administration treat EFC like a 1970'small pariah

Rather than what it is.

A socio economic hub. That brings in business but provides some aminities to local people also.

The Joe Anderson administration like to talk in buzz words. But they are clueless.

 

[Onwards Evertonians]

 

[Eggs]

....that's the competition my son played in over the past few days. I did post yesterday that Peel were involved.

 

[ultra]

.....funny enough I had full access to the stadium this morning and the dressing rooms and infrastructure at Goodison is way short of a standard you would expect in the top flight. Whilst it was great to get out on the pitch, the lads I was with were saying there are better facilities at some local grounds and it can't look impressive when trying to attract new signings.

That's why they take potential signings to Finch Farm. Or to Park Foods in Birkenhead, when Peter Johnson was Chairman...

 

[The Esk]

think what they did with Highbury is cool. But if you look at what happens with most old stadiums in the UK, they often get completely knocked down and the site used for houses. It's a different proposition in London, I'm sure those flats go for millions of pounds, but they wouldn't do if they were in L4

Apart from the fact that it's London and thus the development risk was less, the other factor was that the East Stand was a listed building (because of its Art Deco features) and had to be included in the subsequent development. Very impressive though.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Springsteen and Coldplay are on the etihad soon aswell

Don't forget the international friendlies!

 

[deipnosophist]

.....I wasn't on a tour. My son played there this morning so I had access to all areas, I couldn't resist smashing a few in the Gwladys St myself.

...old habits die hard my friend...

 

[MickA]

Still to me has the same problems. Council would love it of course because it takes derelict land off their hands but I feel we would be getting pushed to the outer regions - out of sight, out of mind.

I don't have a issue with SC if it done properly

I agree with @Toffeelover that the only benefit is derelict land taken off LCC. To do SC 'properly' as suggested by @Toffeeslam would take millions of investment in public transport and years of delays. The site in unsuitable for a stadium and has major infrastructure problems that are far too similar to Kirkby and it should be dropped as a proposal ASAP.

The Emirates is way too far away from the pitch, as is the carbon copy, Estadio De Luz, as is Wembley. Would miss the tall, imtimidating fans. That's way the Dortmund/Koln style is the best, IMO. YOu get that stands towering over you, while being close to the pitch regardless as to whether you're on the front row or second tier. Bowls generally don't follow the pitch.
I dont mind hte bowlshape on the outside, it's the inside bowlshape that worries me.

Bowls are proven generally (don't want to get into the arguement of whether Dortmund, Koln are bowls or not) to enhance the atmosphere by not allowing noise to escape and not partitioning the noise either. Clearly the design of the bowl is a major factor (steepness of the stands - think Juve) and the type of supporters that inhabit it. Kirkby was sold as being a traditional 4 stands when in reality it was simply the absolute cheapest design this board could get away with. Perfect mix probably somewhere in-between, bowl based with some defining, individual features.

There are already modern offices in the heart of the business district, sat empty. 4 St Pauls Square, just of Old Hall Street was largely empty when I started working in the city 3 years ago. It still is. Some of the older offices are absolutely empty. You need business to occupy new offices and at the moment I don't think the numbers are there to justify the scale of the development Peel are talking about.

This is an odd one as there have been numerous warnings about lack of quality office space in Liverpool for a while now. I don't profess to know enough about the sector but we should never be getting to the position where we get close to turning investment away. It's a shame we didn't lobby for the BBC when they moved to Salford
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/business/liverpool-city-centre-sees-office-11318821

 

[Jacko93]

I'm not a structural engineer, but that is seriously not good

Not really much wrong with it in all seriousness.