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New Everton Stadium

GwladysBlue said:
Very much doubt it. That is one thing I can never forgive this board for, they allowed the stadium to fall to wrack and ruin.
Instead of being talked about as one of the great institutes of the game, it is known as a tin pot stadium not fit for purpose.

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Looks better there than it does now.
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Completely agree with this. While everyone else moved on, we went from having the finest club ground in England to what people now call 'the old lady'.........bleeding disgrace tbh.....
 
peteblue said:
Completely agree with this. While everyone else moved on, we went from having the finest club ground in England to what people now call 'the old lady'.........bleeding disgrace tbh.....
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The fact is that money was not available to refurb GP and that church in the corner always inhibited anything being done. The footprint is IMO to landlocked unless you want the club to do a dirty trick like Liverpool and start buying up Gwladsy Street and further back. If we had that kind of money surely we would now be at Kings Dock and you can't tell me you would prefer GP over that.

For me to get the right stadium we have to move but please not to SC and flipping Croxteth that is as bad as Kirkby or even worse.
 

balggy said:
My two pence worth.

I have had misgivings about Liverpool waters for a while. We are talking skyscrapers and I presume it would be a mix of offices and flats. Despite getting planning permission ages ago, nothing has come to pass.

The project would cost millions, perhaps billions. I am not sure there is the demand for offices and flats in effectively the Vauxhall area.

There are already modern offices in the heart of the business district, sat empty. 4 St Pauls Square, just of Old Hall Street was largely empty when I started working in the city 3 years ago. It still is. Some of the older offices are absolutely empty. You need business to occupy new offices and at the moment I don't think the numbers are there to justify the scale of the development Peel are talking about.

With regards to the location, Clarence Graving Dock, it is out of town. If you are a business you won't get the benefits of being a city centre location, eg train stations.

With regards to flats, I'm not sure the demand is there with regards to location or numbers.

As such, I think Peel should look to do a deal with Everton. It could be a catalyst for growth.
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Interesting post.

Surely a stadium would be a much more compatable use for the operational dock than offices or residential though?

The stadium will only be used 20 to 25 times a year, and mostly on Saturday or Sunday afternoons. There will be minimal disruption. Office and residential towers, while not attracting 50,000 people at any time, wouldn't want trucks queueing alongside their front doors, and the buildings would be constantly in use.

Anyway. This is my first post on GOT. Hello all.
 
Gardocki said:
Interesting post.

Surely a stadium would be a much more compatable use for the operational dock than offices or residential though?

The stadium will only be used 20 to 25 times a year, and mostly on Saturday or Sunday afternoons. There will be minimal disruption. Office and residential towers, while not attracting 50,000 people at any time, wouldn't want trucks queueing alongside their front doors, and the buildings would be constantly in use.

Anyway. This is my first post on GOT. Hello all.
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Surely not, most modern stadiums are used thought the week, even crap ones like the Reebok at Bolton have conferences all through the week, weddings and christenings on non match day weekends. There is a massive Stone Roses gig being held at the etihad this summer. Hopefully we will get a stadium with a retractable roof and pitch and there will regularly be huge events there which will make millions for the club
 
True. We'd want to attract much more than Everton games. My point is that if the roads were being used for port activity (truck queueing) then surely office and apartment development would be even less suitable?

Trying to concentrate on the positives about the waterfront.
 

OneTrueLegend said:
Surely not, most modern stadiums are used thought the week, even crap ones like the Reebok at Bolton have conferences all through the week, weddings and christenings on non match day weekends. There is a massive Stone Roses gig being held at the etihad this summer. Hopefully we will get a stadium with a retractable roof and pitch and there will regularly be huge events there which will make millions for the club
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Springsteen and Coldplay are on the etihad soon aswell
 

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