New Everton Stadium

[Eggs]

That's why they take potential signings to Finch Farm. Or to Park Foods in Birkenhead, when Peter Johnson was Chairman...

....we were making exactly the same point.

 

[degsy]

Not really much wrong with it in all seriousness.

we'll agree to differ on that, but I'd be out from under a bit sharpish

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

That's fine, safe as anything, think a suspension bridge, designed to move and flex. Although couldn't see all the lids in the upper gwladys enjoying being on a bouncy castle.

Potential disaster there if @MoutsGoat gets a season ticket in the upper Gwladys

 

[Jacko93]

we'll agree to differ on that, but I'd be out from under a bit sharpish

Its designed to do that. Every stadium has the capability for that to happen. Very similar to the Millenium bridge in London and the wobble that was created. Looked fairly spectacular, but no issues structurally. Basically, every structure has a measurement called a hertz, which should be no lower than 3.5. There are a few in Germany that are below that. If the hertz was 1, then 1 jump per second would create that effect. The moment they break the rhythm the movement will stop. The movement joints have all that in hand and it will be well within parameters.

 

[degsy]

Its designed to do that. Every stadium has the capability for that to happen. Very similar to the Millenium bridge in London and the wobble that was created. Looked fairly spectacular, but no issues structurally. Basically, every structure has a measurement called a hertz, which should be no lower than 3.5. There are a few in Germany that are below that. If the hertz was 1, then 1 jump per second would create that effect. The moment they break the rhythm the movement will stop. The movement joints have all that in hand and it will be well within parameters.

until fatigue sets in and they don't...but hey it might never happen...well maybe only once. Still if you say it's OK it's OK.
*puts it out of mind coz Jacko says it's alright, but makes mental note to swerve Frankfurt.

p.s. Where's the Hertz money mosh.

 

[Julius Geezer]

Its designed to do that. Every stadium has the capability for that to happen. Very similar to the Millenium bridge in London and the wobble that was created. Looked fairly spectacular, but no issues structurally. Basically, every structure has a measurement called a hertz, which should be no lower than 3.5. There are a few in Germany that are below that. If the hertz was 1, then 1 jump per second would create that effect. The moment they break the rhythm the movement will stop. The movement joints have all that in hand and it will be well within parameters.

Is this "Resonance Frequency" ?

 

[Jacko93]

Is this "Resonance Frequency" ?

Yes mate.

 

[The Cowboy]

Its designed to do that. Every stadium has the capability for that to happen. Very similar to the Millenium bridge in London and the wobble that was created. Looked fairly spectacular, but no issues structurally. Basically, every structure has a measurement called a hertz, which should be no lower than 3.5. There are a few in Germany that are below that. If the hertz was 1, then 1 jump per second would create that effect. The moment they break the rhythm the movement will stop. The movement joints have all that in hand and it will be well within parameters.

Surely there's an element of impact though, from the stresses placed on the load-bearing sections?

 

[Blue Horse]

Its designed to do that. Every stadium has the capability for that to happen. Very similar to the Millenium bridge in London and the wobble that was created. Looked fairly spectacular, but no issues structurally. Basically, every structure has a measurement called a hertz, which should be no lower than 3.5. There are a few in Germany that are below that. If the hertz was 1, then 1 jump per second would create that effect. The moment they break the rhythm the movement will stop. The movement joints have all that in hand and it will be well within parameters.

Didn't celtic cause something similar at a pre season game at anfield a few years ago?

 

[Eggs]

.....all projects start with high-level, nonfunctional and detailed requirements. I'm sure the powers that be read these pages so perhaps we should capture our own personal requirements for consideration by architects of the new build.

I was in Goodison yesterday. The Alan Ball mosaic in the home dressing room is fabulous, I want it to be replicated in the new stadium please.

 

[Jacko93]

Surely there's an element of impact though, from the stresses placed on the load-bearing sections?

I'm sure there will be, I'm not a structural engineer, I just work with them, but I remember speaking about this effect with one of the senior designers a few months back cause of a project we are working on, and he basically explained to me taht wit the steels gradings that will be used for cantilever structures like that, the matching of the resonance frequency for periods of time like that will not have an effect on the life expectancy of the steel, if it was over hours and hours then that's a different story as the resonance and subsequent movement would increase until breaking. Normally though they would strengthen in places to try and alter out the hertz measurements to make it a larger figure.

 

[Gardocki]

I watched a programme on the Millenium Stadium a few years back. They were saying that the overhanging part of the upper tier is usually fine for matches, but at concerts they have to put temporary support pillars in as the crowds tend to jump in rhythm, which can cause a problem.

Spurs new ground reminds me of the Millenium Stadium actually, in that one stand behind the goal will be different to the other 3 stands. It doesn't look right. A stadium should be symmetrical imo. Hope they get the design of a new stadium right. We'll be stuck with it for another century.

 

[Jacko93]

I watched a programme on the Millenium Stadium a few years back. They were saying that the overhanging part of the upper tier is usually fine for matches, but at concerts they have to put temporary support pillars in as the crowds tend to jump in rhythm, which can cause a problem.

Spurs new ground reminds me of the Millenium Stadium actually, in that one stand behind the goal will be different to the other 3 stands. It doesn't look right. A stadium should be symmetrical imo. Hope they get the design of a new stadium right. We'll be stuck with it for another century.

I don't mind an Asymmetrical stadium, i think it adds character.

 

[kev]

.....all projects start with high-level, nonfunctional and detailed requirements. I'm sure the powers that be read these pages so perhaps we should capture our own personal requirements for consideration by architects of the new build.

I was in Goodison yesterday. The Alan Ball mosaic in the home dressing room is fabulous, I want it to be replicated in the new stadium please.

I think that would deserve it's own thread @Eggs
There are certain things that should definitely be included into the design of any new stadium.
Some replica of the Archibald Leitch 'criss-cross' design for starters.
Problem is that any such thread would quickly become clogged by flippant remarks about gold plated monorails etc.

 

[Eggs]

I think that would deserve it's own thread @Eggs
There are certain things that should definitely be included into the design of any new stadium.
Some replica of the Archibald Leitch 'criss-cross' design for starters.
Problem is that any such thread would quickly become clogged by flippant remarks about gold plated monorails etc.

....yep, was thinking exactly the same about the criss cross. Great idea about the thread, I'll kick it off.