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New Everton Stadium

You could say that nowhere is "murder" to get to in Liverpool, the issue is how easy is it for 50k+ to get to and from it. See Destination Kirkby for how that can work out.

However, the point was made about whether or not it's going to be more or less convenient than it is now for most people, and in stadium planning terms how that might affect the "matchday experience", for better or worse.

The Transport plan is for the most part pretty vague, but it does state clearly that the new site will require substantial modal-shift to public transport to avoid gridlock and excessive dispersal times. In fact, it says it will need to be at least a reversal of proportions from 40:60 now, to 60:40 in favour of public transport. So lots of people who currently drive are expected to leave there cars at home for this to work. At present, BMD is a bit of a public transport blind spot. It is devoid of any public transport within a half mile radius, practically no regular bus routes within a full mile radius, and over half the normal parking catchment area is under water, and it is served by substantially less traffic lanes than GP, which has numerous buses on its doorstep and 360° parking catchment.

Of course, proximity to town and all its hubs and the Northern Line is the key factor, but it's over 1.5 miles to Queens Sqr and Liverpool 1 bus stations where most buses terminate (not Old Hall St or the Denbigh). So a 3 mile walking or shuttle round trip, to then wait in another bus Q. Not Murder no, but certainly not Kings Dock in terms of convenience either. The mention of shuttles is particularly vague. No mention of how many serving what routes and their frequency. I've no idea of the modelled dispersal time, because it's conspicuously absent from the planning docs (unless I've missed it). Gliders/trackless-trams in segregated lanes could greatly improve all of that.... but unless there's been a revision, there is no mention in the transport plan.

This service will be extended to cover match=days I expect... https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/timetables/bus/136/ ... It's an independent operator as far as I'm aware so they would jump at the chance of having extra profitable services, as they probably only see peak hour as viable at the moment. I also think they are probably subsidised

I also expect other services to have their routes tweaked either permanently or for match-day/events. Some of the Southport services used to take that route in to town, there's also half hourly service (54) that runs through Vauxhall Rd as opposed to the more frequently served exit route of Scotty.
 
You could say that nowhere is "murder" to get to in Liverpool, the issue is how easy is it for 50k+ to get to and from it. See Destination Kirkby for how that can work out.

However, the point was made about whether or not it's going to be more or less convenient than it is now for most people, and in stadium planning terms how that might affect the "matchday experience", for better or worse.

The Transport plan is for the most part pretty vague, but it does state clearly that the new site will require substantial modal-shift to public transport to avoid gridlock and excessive dispersal times. In fact, it says it will need to be at least a reversal of proportions from 40:60 now, to 60:40 in favour of public transport. So lots of people who currently drive are expected to leave there cars at home for this to work. At present, BMD is a bit of a public transport blind spot. It is devoid of any public transport within a half mile radius, practically no regular bus routes within a full mile radius, and over half the normal parking catchment area is under water, and it is served by substantially less traffic lanes than GP, which has numerous buses on its doorstep and 360° parking catchment.

Of course, proximity to town and all its hubs and the Northern Line is the key factor, but it's over 1.5 miles to Queens Sqr and Liverpool 1 bus stations where most buses terminate (not Old Hall St or the Denbigh). So a 3 mile walking or shuttle round trip, to then wait in another bus Q. Not Murder no, but certainly not Kings Dock in terms of convenience either. The mention of shuttles is particularly vague. No mention of how many serving what routes and their frequency. I've no idea of the modelled dispersal time, because it's conspicuously absent from the planning docs (unless I've missed it). Gliders/trackless-trams in segregated lanes could greatly improve all of that.... but unless there's been a revision, there is no mention in the transport plan.
So it’s more convenient than GP is currently then, thanks Tom, thought so.
 
When a game finished at Goodison there was a mass exodus of people leaving because there was nothing to keep them back.
BMD may be different because there will be a selection of bars and restaurants within the ground and there may well be activities, food and drink as well outside the ground.

It is possible the exodus from the site may be more gradual and staggered.
 

When a game finished at Goodison there was a mass exodus of people leaving because there was nothing to keep them back.
BMD may be different because there will be a selection of bars and restaurants within the ground and there may well be activities, food and drink as well outside the ground.

It is possible the exodus from the site may be more gradual and staggered.

There's similar at most stadia.... the vast majority still leave at FT. Nightgames, practically everyone does.
 
Lots of rival fans negative comments about BMD on social media lately.

I remember Spurs stadium being called a “soulless NFL bowl” and comments on it looking like a toilet from above (weirdly, it actually does)

It is strange the way the photos make the interior look. I don’t think it looks great on the photos but in real life it’s a different story.

It is much more impressive in the flesh. It’s much bigger than the images show and it’s so steep, it really will be an imposing arena.

I really hope they disguise the super riser by painting it the exact shade of blue that the seats are.

If the club ever gives us a team that can give us something positive to shout about, the atmosphere should be really, really impressive.
 

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It would be a shame if people clicked on his company link and booked a load of fake meetings.


Wow they're right, I can barely tell the difference.

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When a game finished at Goodison there was a mass exodus of people leaving because there was nothing to keep them back.
BMD may be different because there will be a selection of bars and restaurants within the ground and there may well be activities, food and drink as well outside the ground.

It is possible the exodus from the site may be more gradual and staggered.

The way we play a brass house should be added to the activities section
 

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