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New Everton Stadium

Nobody has claimed it can be done in 10-15 minutes, have they?

I've maintained that it's 1.2 miles from Old Hall Street. We'll call it 1.3 to include getting out of the station. I'm more than confident it will take me between 15-20 minutes.

I mean, I'll be staying on the train past Sandhills, so I'm not gonna get off and head straight to the ground anyway, anybody who struggles to walk at a decent pace can get closer to the ground than Town.

Put it this way, i regularly walk, with my 5' 4' son from Seaforth/Litherland to Marine FC and that only takes us 35 mins.

Mind if I ask what way you walked Doc?
I wasn't specifically replying to you, John. But there is certainly a percentage of fans who have seriously under calculated the distance from the city centre to the new place. I haven't. Neither do I think getting to and from will be an issue, as I suspect there will be ample Soccerbus provision from various points in the city centre.

When you talk about walking to Marine, you don't mean that's the station where you get off do you?

If you can walk from Moorfields to the new stadium in 15/20 minutes. I take my hat off. I couldn't.
 
I wasn't specifically replying to you, John. But there is certainly a percentage of fans who have seriously under calculated the distance from the city centre to the new place. I haven't. Neither do I think getting to and from will be an issue, as I suspect there will be ample Soccerbus provision from various points in the city centre.

When you talk about walking to Marine, you don't mean that's the station where you get off do you?

If you can walk from Moorfields to the new stadium in 15/20 minutes. I take my hat off. I couldn't.
 Taxi. sorry, Uber
 

I wasn't specifically replying to you, John. But there is certainly a percentage of fans who have seriously under calculated the distance from the city centre to the new place. I haven't. Neither do I think getting to and from will be an issue, as I suspect there will be ample Soccerbus provision from various points in the city centre.

When you talk about walking to Marine, you don't mean that's the station where you get off do you?

If you can walk from Moorfields to the new stadium in 15/20 minutes. I take my hat off. I couldn't.

No mate, I walk all the way to Marine a lot of the time and it takes us circa 35 mins. from the area close to the Lidl. It's 2.2 miles according to Google Maps. I used to get the train, only thing is though, it's like 4 minutes on the train to Blundellsands & Crosby, and the trains can sometimes be unreliable, so unless it pisses down, I just walk. I don't end up getting the to ground too early then, as I don't have to factor in possible delays. I know if I leave the house 55 mins before kick-off I will get to Marine 20 mins before kick-off, which is optimum for me, for most games.

Anyway, back on topic: Do these biffs saying it looks like a Tesco not realise there's a much more stunning view of the ground yet to be fully completed?
 
I wasn't specifically replying to you, John. But there is certainly a percentage of fans who have seriously under calculated the distance from the city centre to the new place. I haven't. Neither do I think getting to and from will be an issue, as I suspect there will be ample Soccerbus provision from various points in the city centre.

When you talk about walking to Marine, you don't mean that's the station where you get off do you?

If you can walk from Moorfields to the new stadium in 15/20 minutes. I take my hat off. I couldn't.

It took me Just under 8 minutes on an electric scooter from Old Hall Street. If your travelling at just under half the speed of that, walking to the game, you'll have a right sweat on by the time you get there.
 
I wasn't specifically replying to you, John. But there is certainly a percentage of fans who have seriously under calculated the distance from the city centre to the new place. I haven't. Neither do I think getting to and from will be an issue, as I suspect there will be ample Soccerbus provision from various points in the city centre.

When you talk about walking to Marine, you don't mean that's the station where you get off do you?

If you can walk from Moorfields to the new stadium in 15/20 minutes. I take my hat off. I couldn't.
It’s literally mins walk from Sandhills
 
It took me Just under 8 minutes on an electric scooter from Old Hall Street. If your travelling at just under half the speed of that, walking to the game, you'll have a right sweat on by the time you get there.

At the average walking speed of 3mph, it would take 24 mins. Obviously some will do it quicker and others will take longer. I suspect if it's more than half an hour for some people, then those people probably won't be walking anyway. It will be a 'nothing' walk for loads though.
 
We say things about the Liverpool stadium that are not complimentary so we can hardly be surprised when they say similar things about ours.

What cannot be disputed that going forward the stadium is a game changer for us, even the very fact that there are multiple parties interested in buying the club is largely down to BMD.

We have already seen multiple new partners and sponsors joining with the club because of the stadium and if nothing else they will help hugely with PSR in this and in future accounting years.

The club needs to be managed better from top to bottom but at least there is a template now of what not to do, can can only hope it is taken into account.

John Textor is already in football club ownership as is the Friekdin group. They should be aware of the pitfalls of poor management already.
 

We say things about the Liverpool stadium that are not complimentary so we can hardly be surprised when they say similar things about ours.

What cannot be disputed that going forward the stadium is a game changer for us, even the very fact that there are multiple parties interested in buying the club is largely down to BMD.

We have already seen multiple new partners and sponsors joining with the club because of the stadium and if nothing else they will help hugely with PSR in this and in future accounting years.

The club needs to be managed better from top to bottom but at least there is a template now of what not to do, can can only hope it is taken into account.

John Textor is already in football club ownership as is the Friekdin group. They should be aware of the pitfalls of poor management already.

Yeah, they've looked at a couple of pics and think they know exactly what it's like. Wait until the first home derby, guaranteed them lot will have faces like a smacked arse when they take it in from the stands.
 
Anyone got an idea how long it will take me to get to BMD from Huyton via roller blades?

Other option is lashing a harness over the kids and getting them to drag me there husky style from the Denbigh castle.

Gonna be murder to get to isn’t it…..

You could say that nowhere is "murder" to get to in Liverpool, the issue is how easy is it for 50k+ to get to and from it. See Destination Kirkby for how that can work out.

However, the point was made about whether or not it's going to be more or less convenient than it is now for most people, and in stadium planning terms how that might affect the "matchday experience", for better or worse.

The Transport plan is for the most part pretty vague, but it does state clearly that the new site will require substantial modal-shift to public transport to avoid gridlock and excessive dispersal times. In fact, it says it will need to be at least a reversal of proportions from 40:60 now, to 60:40 in favour of public transport. So lots of people who currently drive are expected to leave there cars at home for this to work. At present, BMD is a bit of a public transport blind spot. It is devoid of any public transport within a half mile radius, practically no regular bus routes within a full mile radius, and over half the normal parking catchment area is under water, and it is served by substantially less traffic lanes than GP, which has numerous buses on its doorstep and 360° parking catchment.

Of course, proximity to town and all its hubs and the Northern Line is the key factor, but it's over 1.5 miles to Queens Sqr and Liverpool 1 bus stations where most buses terminate (not Old Hall St or the Denbigh). So a 3 mile walking or shuttle round trip, to then wait in another bus Q. Not Murder no, but certainly not Kings Dock in terms of convenience either. The mention of shuttles is particularly vague. No mention of how many serving what routes and their frequency. I've no idea of the modelled dispersal time, because it's conspicuously absent from the planning docs (unless I've missed it). Gliders/trackless-trams in segregated lanes could greatly improve all of that.... but unless there's been a revision, there is no mention in the transport plan.
 
Anyone got an idea how long it will take me to get to BMD from Huyton via roller blades?

Other option is lashing a harness over the kids and getting them to drag me there husky style from the Denbigh castle.

Gonna be murder to get to isn’t it…..

Is it even on Google maps !? I've heard it would have easier to find the After a money, with a team led by Lord Lucan.
 

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