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New Everton Stadium

Lee Smith said:
The above post raises a good point... It will be interesting to see how detailed the specific "View From Seat" option is, once it is made available.

Would be brilliant if you could enter a few variables which would give you a really bespoke and as accurate as possible representation.

Could be really informative if for example they give you the option to enter your height (the view from a particular seat for a 6ft plus adult could be totally different to a young child, especially if sat up against a vomitory or handrail). Also being able to switch between how it looks sitting versus standing (for when everyone stands up as an attack starts to develop (LOL as if!)), and the option of filling the surrounding seats with models of others.

Can't see them doing any of that though :lol:
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Great shout that though mate.

Get all the 6 footers at the back and let us vertically challenged folk at the front!!!
 
GoldenToffee said:
Question:
Do we think they will still do a version of "Operation Goodison Exercise", and if so, what are they going to call it?

"Operation Everton Stadium Exercise"?

What even is Operation Goodison Exercise?
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They open all the external gates/doors. So say they was to be an emergency evacuation, fans don't get stuck because someone forgot to open up exit C or whatever.
 
The binman chronicles said:
They open all the external gates/doors. So say they was to be an emergency evacuation, fans don't get stuck because someone forgot to open up exit C or whatever.
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Always wondered why they don't just relay that via radios rather than having it blasting over the tannoy. (or better still just have it planned in advance at a set time).
 
AndyRJ said:
That's not true though is it. The OFFICIAL line from the club is that there are no obstructed views. The OFFICIAL line from the design team is that there are no obstructed views.

Nothing has confirmed that the South Stand wall obstructs any views. Nothing has confirmed that seats have been 'Removed'. They were NEVER installed in the first place. That's a simple fact, something you clearly struggle with. Makes absolutely no difference whatsoever if they were there on the planning drawings but aren't now. It's planning, not construction. I'd expect you to understand what the RIBA Plan of Work is.

When talking about the away end, i stated that supporters would be standing so it wouldn't be an issue. As i've already conceded in this thread, that was an incorrect assumption as the area is actually seated. Nevertheless, no-one can say with certainty that those seats are absolutely obstructed or if they will even be sold. I'm quite happy to wait and reserve judgement and not openly criticse at every opportunity.

I'm trying to understand what your experience is that makes you such an expert on stadium design that it means you can openly criticse something you weren't involved in. Thanks for confirming you're not an expert.

*Edit* Just to add, I haven't been critical of the process or design at all. I suggested that it might have been better had they chamfered the corner of the platform off to improve the views. That's offering an opinion, i haven't called it flawed or poor design like you have. I fully expect that there is a reason why they have done what they have. A reason that no-one here knows because we aren't part of the design team!
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No, when the point was raised about the swept back wall, YOU stated that there would be no obstructions in that area, based on your belief that the design process and those responsible were somehow infallible, and basically, who was I to question it.

The drawings clearly show those end of aisle seats in place. The videos/images showed the bracketry was in place for those seats during construction and steps were also set to the width of the original aisle. Now those seats and brackets are not there.

Now you're backtracking and deflecting with personal attacks questioning my experience etc, which is entirely irrelevant to the points being made.... i have never said that I was an "expert" but have experience in sightline modelling/surveying and design. You evidently don't.
 

The binman chronicles said:
They open all the external gates/doors. So say they was to be an emergency evacuation, fans don't get stuck because someone forgot to open up exit C or whatever.
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if your in the main stand you stuck for ages, it takes so long to empty.all the other stands empty quick but the main stand people still queuing 20 mins after to get after. if we haven't left before the end of dyche ball 😀😀
 

Tom Hughes said:
No, when the point was raised about the swept back wall, YOU stated that there would be no obstructions in that area, based on your belief that the design process and those responsible were somehow infallible, and basically, who was I to question it.

The drawings clearly show those end of aisle seats in place. The videos/images showed the bracketry was in place for those seats during construction and steps were also set to the width of the original aisle. Now those seats and brackets are not there.

Now you're backtracking and deflecting with personal attacks questioning my experience etc, which is entirely irrelevant to the points being made.... i have never said that I was an "expert" but have experience in sightline modelling/surveying and design. You evidently don't.
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And i'm still saying that there aren't any obstructed views to seats in that area...we'll see who's right imminently I suspect. My opinion was based on decades of industry experience, backed up by the club and the design team both stating that there aren't any obstructed views.

Do you have posession of the construction drawings? No, you don't. You're looking at PLANNING DRAWINGS. There have been plenty of changes to the seating arrangements since planning. It proves nothing. Do you not understand how a design process works? :lol:

It's quite conceivable that something has changed between planning and construction which meant these apparent 'missing seats' had an obstructed view. Changes could then have been made to rectify it. Does that mean someone has made a mistake or it's a bad design....no it doesn't.

The brackets are still there, they have had a hand rail fixed to them to close the gap. No seats WERE EVER installed. Why is not introducing a seat that may have had a restricted view some sort of admission of guilt? 🙄


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Personal attack? Grow Up.
 
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Street end man said:
Just a thought. In these £1200 seats does the 10 quid ale voucher have to be used on that day or does it carry over. If the former then won't the bar be simply rammed with a few thousand people making sure they get their monies worth? People who would not normally buy a drink there feeling like they have to🤔
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I think that is their intention. I think the concourse is bigger at BMD so it won't be rammed, especially in a hospitality atea
 
EFC_FRANCIS said:
So the equivalent view from my seats gone up over 500 quid. Nice.
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As someone from the Upper Bullens i always thought the pricing structure at Goodison was chaos. The best seats (imo)at Goodison apart from the directors box is the middle of the Upper Bullens, however you paid more in the Park End. This was clearly going to stop at BMD when a grown up got to look at it afresh. I know the Park End is "new" but still
 

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