goldfinchmule
Player Valuation: £6m
If it was pay at the gate about 30,000
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New Everton Stadium
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I cant see it on the roof. I could defo see the West End stand facing the Mersey getting the stadium name though. Any sponsor in the world would want their brand name on that end of the stadium.
Big Neville Southall
Player Valuation: £8m
Best way to compare is through rows of seats.
The South Stand is 60 rows combined upper and lower, so I'm guessing 30 each?
Lower Gwladys St is 41, Upper Gwladys St is about 20??
Stretford End is 90 in total, 50 and 40.
Holte End around 80 combined, 45, 35?
Newcastle is high too, 70+ rows in total?
Dortmund one tier, 82 I think, RS 76, Fulham 50+
Kever10
Player Valuation: £20m
Except most of them have rows with insufficient space to have standing. Our new 60 rows takes up far more than our current 61 for example.
So probably not the best way.
and the official number would be 5,000
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Yes, that's probably true for most of the UK stadia. The new Anfield Rd Stand is 84 or 86 rows too. They would have to reprofile if they wanted standing at over 1:1ratios. That would then depend on whether or not the sightlines still worked well enough for standing. Some modern stadia were built with relatively low C-values, meaning that as soon as they stand, the views are appalling. Stands using reinforced concrete rakers can also be difficult to reprofile.
That said, BMD's treads are only 750mm (Most German Stadia with safe-standing are much bigger), which means that the theoretical ratio would be no more than 1.5:1 (possibly as low as 1.3:1). There may then be issues regarding concourse space in the upper tier, which at present is shared with the side stands.... and may then need separating, as would be the case on the corner sections of the actual bowl, in order to separate standing and seating areas.
Blue Parkender
Player Valuation: £8m
You never know that might suit are players betterSo the pitch doesn’t fit and it’s the wrong shape. I give up
Captain Bligh
Player Valuation: £225k
This is highly concerning. The only sports that can be played on a square pitch are chess and kabbadi.
WelshBlue92
Player Valuation: £750k
In terms of current capacity the South Stand is as follows.
South Stand Lower = 5,000 (rail seats)
South Stand Upper = 9,843 ('normal' seats)
South Stand Total Available capacity = 14,843
It would depend on what seat to stand ratio would be allowable.
In reality only the lower South will ever be converted but if the whole stand was converted to standing then some examples would be.
Total South Stand
1:1.3 = 19,296
1:1.5 = 22,265
1:1.6 = 23,749
1:1.8 = 26,717
1:2.0 = 29,686
Lower South Stand
1:1.3 = 6,500
1:1.5 = 7,500
1:1.6 = 8,000
1:1.8 = 9,000
1:2.0 = 10,000
chazzle_dazzle
Player Valuation: £35m
I have visions of Moshiri wanting to be there as part of the handover ceremony, as it was his project, and then taking the mic and doing a swing jaw Klopp "Dan Freiiiidkin, na naaaaah na na na" and Dan flies over in his spitfire.
Mosh's mission is complete, stadium and handover to the new owners. gets in his yacht, and sails off into the sunset.
Mosh's mission is complete, stadium and handover to the new owners. gets in his yacht, and sails off into the sunset.
WelshBlue92
Player Valuation: £750k
Attached is a rough diagram of how the rail seating in the Lower South Stand would work if a ratio of 1:1.8 was approved, 5 seats * 1.8 = 9 standing.
(with the seats in the locked upright position to facilitate standing).
(with the seats in the locked upright position to facilitate standing).
Yep, massive neon sign with a company logo on the riverside would be worth a fortune, surely? Free standing letters 25 foot tall. Would be backwards for the fans but would it really matter? MUIDATS ACIREMA FO KNAB wouldn't bother me if we were getting top dollar.
WelshBlue92
Player Valuation: £750k
I decided to scale this up just to check it.
On 5 seats this spacing is a 1.8 ratio, however over 25 seats its actually 1.96 (due to the seats in green), so 25 seats becomes 49 standing.
So in reality over a full row a ratio of 1.8 would be a little more spaced apart to go from 25 seats to 45 standing.
Not ever having been to a packed, terraced Goodison - but I guess even if I had given how different the game was back then - I find it hard to imagine how modern ticketing and stewarding would work without seat numbers - which I guess you wouldn't have with ratios greater than 1:1.
Unless stewards are constantly monitoring who enters which row, what's to stop the front rows getting over-filled? Then when they are, how do they work their way down to find out who shouldn't be there?
WelshBlue92
Player Valuation: £750k
It'll be difficult to police in that way if people do choose to stand in the wrong place, however the benefit of rail seating/standing is that realistically you can only fit 2 people, depth wise, per row anyway so it doesn't suffer from the crowd surge affect that blighted previous terraces with their insufficient barriers.
If safe standing more than 1:1 ever does come in then I suspect it will be approved in phases e.g 1:1.1 then 1:1.2 and so on until clubs can prove that their ground can safely facilitate the higher ratios. And if clubs/fans are not adhering to this then they'd be downgraded.
I'd expect that stadia like BMD or Spurs Stadium may be able to facilitate a higher ratio than Anfield for example as the Rows are deeper and the concourses are able to cope with a higher quantity/volume of people. So it would be sensible for the FA to grade stadia in that way, rather than having a blanket ratio applied to all grounds.
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