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Vintage
Player Valuation: £70m
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
The Spurs Stadium is essentially just a slightly more refined version of the Emirates with a large single tiered stand at one end. A modern multi-tiered football stadium. I don't recall anyone ever referring to the Emirates as an NFL stadium. I have also been to quite a few NFL, college and baseball stadia in the US. I can't remember visiting any with a large Kop-type stand at one end and the proportions for the tiers are usually slightly different with a larger lower tier, and a cranked or curved side stand to facilitate better views along the sidelines. So Spurs ground is primarily a football stadium, which like many others can host American football too, or Rugby.
Conversely however, I do remember quite a few US stadia having large windows above small stands behind the end zones...... a bit like our North Stand. Does that make our (US designed) stadium a typical NFL stadium? Of course not!
I am sure some Spurs fans are not completely happy with it for various reasons. It is quite a cavernous space, the atmosphere might not quite be all that was promised and some get regularly get wet in the lower tier etc. However, I think the vast majority are very happy with it and generally it is rated very highly on most stadium forums/sites.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Colin Chong said over a year ago that the he thought that the most probable areas for future expansion would be at the sides. Personally, I think the North Stand could be by far the easiest, if that land could be negotiated, and by far the cheapest in construction terms per seat too. Furthermore, it would be less subject to the stadium's height constraints at planning.... (although Chong said he thought these could be less onerous for an established stadium). It would also not compromise Meis' signature barrel roof aesthetic. That alone, would take the seated capacity to approx 56k.
Given the height of the existing side stands and the proximity to water on one side, this would probably be a slightly more expensive undertaking per new seat than similar recent expansions at Anfield and the Etihad, where the starting points were much lower and more easily accessible. Of course, our side roof sections are also back-tied cantilerers, with the large barrel at the rear, so building right up to the rear row of the existing stand before roof removal, is slightly more problematic too. As Meis said, you then have the scenario of the least attractive seats costing the most to build..... So it then becomes a case of whether or not demand warrants that outlay. Of course, the potential to build in some new corporate can help to offset some of that cost, and/or the possibility of adding a new full (or closing) roof could greatly enhance the stadium's flexibility for alternative year round usage.
It would also be limited by the minimum c-value envelope. The stands are steep and may already be close to that limit (although the overlay of the original 60k cross sections suggests otherwise). Therefore, without doing the sightline calculations, it's difficult to know how many new rows can be added. It would also all be subject to any other planning restrictions in terms of accessibility and transport etc.
Of course, with sufficient money, anything is possible. Whether TFG are that type of owners is yet to be seen.
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Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
If you have no interest in the subject matter, why are you even commenting on this thread? Why are you not also having a go at those who have posted about the reasons for the low number of boxes too?
What information are you imparting?
It's the stadium discussion thread, not a happy-clappy positivity thread. Why don't you start that one?
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
I think that is true, the internal format is more like the normal simple German functionality than say, the tall multi-tiered San Siro, many Spanish, Asian or US stadia. That said, the "simplicity" approach normally also extends to the external facade-design at most German stadia, where there is usually little by way of decorative flare or fancy architectural frills. Form meets function internally.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
Our facade is better than almost anything here in Germany. Our location, too. Internally, the Germans have it down pat. The atmosphere at most of their grounds is the best in the world. While I have been less impressed, architecturally, with the internals, that can only be judged when there are people inside. But, from what I can see, the structure reminds me of grounds here in the Bundesliga, so that fills me with optimism that Meis has got this spot on. Only time will tell, but the signs are good...
sbbefc
Player Valuation: £30m
I've not been in Spurs' ground but I have seen it from afar. Architecturallly I think it's ugly and I much prefer our waterside location. All subjective though I guess.
Internally, it doesn't look that inspiring to me. From the TV pictures (excluding the single tier), it seems to be more like Wembley, with a large open feel to it (I might be wrong). And Wembley isn't a stadium I'm not that fond of to be honest. It feels soulless to me.
For me the best large 'modern' stadium I've been to (50k +) is the principality stadium in Cardiff. It just seems to nail everything. Design, atmosphere and location.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Meis did his best to screw this stadium up.
He 'consulted' fans over what the design should look like but really imposed a view that fitted what could get it past planning.
I've never bought into the 'wave' design roof. Looks nothing like a wave in reality - though the roof is its best feature. The brick and panelling facade looks terrible IMO, and the hamfisted 'Leitch' brickwork design a botched attempt to pacify the punters and distract. And now that the interior is complete - and as has been mentioned above, its functionality apparent - you can see where the cash has been spent on the project as a whole: foundation work.
The spectacle of the stadium is almost all about the scale of it and the location it nestles in. Even Meis couldn't wreck that and so it will become one of the iconic stadium's of world football.
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Blue Willy
Player Valuation: £8m
Sums you up tbh. Maybe wind it in a little in 2025 Dave, things are grim enough mate.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
I worship no false Gods.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
What do you actually like about Everton mate? As it’s not the owners, the players or the stadium by the looks of it.
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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
If you'd read my last post you'd know that I like the stadium.
