New manager

[Exeter_Gently]

….i wouldn’t want Mourinho but I also didn’t want Nuno Espiroto bloke.

Precisely this...Blues where incandescent with rage over Santo.

We think we're a football savvy fanbase.

We're not.

 

[RomanReigns]

mourinho would lose all his hair within 6 months if he managed us

 

[Simon Buttle]

I think we are caught between competing needs of survival/stabilisation and progress if im honest. There are also other variables like availability without compo, working knowledge, experience of our current position etc. He just ticks an awful lot of logical boxes if i was TFG and i was protecting a £600 mill pound investment.

Football investment in generally about a 10 year minimum, financial investment before looking for a return, could TFG look at the first 18 months of this investment cycle being stabilisation - i think they could.

Honestly when i weigh everything up i find it hard logically for it not to be Moyes. Id personally be surprised.

Not discounting the points you made mate, just a different lense.

There was a line on something the other day suggesting Moyes is not their guy though, also if what bobble said about the person they do want still being in a job it kind of backs that up. Id rather we got a few players in and tried to push through to the end of the season tbh, I'm not overly keen on swapping managers atm.

 

[Drico]

….thats an interesting defence of Dyche. Saying that, somebody has to ‘do it with this squad’ or we’ll be relegated.

"Do it" means successful football - not staying up.

Put a gun to my head and I reckon Dyche will do just enough to keep us afloat even now.

I wouldn't take the risk, though, if it was my investment.

 

[Evertonthat]

100%. People forget easily. It’s dire stuff.

This is true, but its easily forgotten when you win stuff. Carlo didn't play world star footy.

 

[Victus]

Mourinho suits our players more than Potter did, that's for sure.

 

[bluestevon]

Mourinho has been in massive decline for years now. Would any reasonable owner recruit him based off his achievements in the last 6 or 7 years? I think he's failed at something like his last 4 jobs right?

Won the first ever European pot for Roma reached the EL final the next season, got the cup final with spurs and I'd have laid odds on them winning had they not fired him the week before which would have been their first trophy in 30 years too. Won the Europa and league cup with united finished league and FA cup runner up in his last season there.

So last 6-7 years he's won 2 European trophies, reached the final of a third.
Won 1 domestic cup, reached the final of another 2 - only lost one of those as was gone right before the other. Finished runner up on the league, finished in the European spots in every other season with all clubs.

Would mind three seasons of Mourinho failing like that here tbh.

 

[Tony’s Carp]

Well, we've just gone Benitez-Lampard-Dyche so I for one amn't turning my nose up at one of the most successful managers in European football.

 

[matty1878]

See Ranieri, Claudio mate. They have form.

If they make a change they will go for someone available IMO.

honestly mate we won’t

 

[Lanolin]

2 European finals , Europe league winner in the last few seasons .

Failed ???

Comparatively speaking yes that's still a huge decline from his peak, and possibly still a failure overall depending on what the actual targets were.

 

[Drico]

Won the first ever European pot for Roma reached the EL final the next season, got the cup final with spurs and I'd have laid odds on them winning had they not fired him the week before which would have been their first trophy in 30 years too. Won the Europa and league cup with united finished league and FA cup runner up in his last season there.

So last 6-7 years he's won 2 European trophies, reached the final of a third.
Won 1 domestic cup, reached the final of another 2 - only lost one of those as was gone right before the other. Finished runner up on the league, finished in the European spots in every other season with all clubs.

Would mind three seasons of Mourinho failing like that here tbh.

Exactly.

When you've been one of the all-time great managers, winning a few pots and finishing second in the league (as he did with United and as he currently is with Fenerbahce) is deemed falling off a cliff.

If Everton succeeded as much as Mourinho failed, we'd be a superclub.

Levels.

 

[matty1878]

Yeah , who cares about PSR.

oh shush don’t ruin it

 

[helpimonfire]

It's easy to forget that when the Everton manager is romping down the Anfield touchline on his knees after the Toffees net a last-minute derby winner...

I like this.

 

[bluestevon]

This is true, but its easily forgotten when you win stuff. Carlo didn't play world star footy.

Mourinho has managed about 1.8 gpg throughout his career (higher at Madrid and Porto) so around the 67-68 goals per season on average.

He plays defensive foot for sure but one which is based on counter attacking to win games not relying on set pieces exactly is it

 

[Neiler]

There was a line on something the other day suggesting Moyes is not their guy though, also if what bobble said about the person they do want still being in a job it kind of backs that up. Id rather we got a few players in and tried to push through to the end of the season tbh, I'm not overly keen on swapping managers atm.

Think its become untenable for Dyche myself now mate...personally dont see how he can continue with conviction.

Id have a completely different opinion on a manager if you asked me this week or in the summer.

To reconcile the two i think there has to be compromise between the two competing needs and that's where i think Moyes is a bridge.

They've done it at Rome already, with limited options in Ranieri.