New proposed offside rule

[trueblue84]

WENGER'S RADICAL RULE CHANGES​

Throw-ins - Teams should be able to kick the ball back into play instead of throwing it back in, if they are inside their own half.

Offside - An attacker would not be offside if any part of their body with which they are allowed to score, such as a foot, head or shoulder, is in line with the penultimate defender.

Corners - Kicks which curve out of play and then back in again should be permitted.

Free-kicks - Players should be able to touch the ball to themselves to restart play, not be forced to pass to a team-mate.

I agree with the corners one. Should also apply to throw-ins, like the other night when digne was recieving an over-hit cross-field pass. He managed to get his head on it and keep it in, but it was deemed to have gone out while in the air.

 

[chrismpw]

Thats just one extreme of margins to the other. Nothing wrong with the rule now other than arms and toenails should be excluded from the decision.

 

[verreauxi]

Put a small transmitter chip on the back of each player's shirt, up near the neck. Use these to transmit player's positions to the VAR in order to draw the lines. Each player is then measured by the center "bulk" of their body and not by a shirt sleeve or finger or shoe-lace. I'm certain the technology is available to do this (?). Does anyone know? People put all sorts of small tracking devices on wild life, so it seems that this is possible.

 

[davids]

you'd still have the same problem with the drawing of lines on a pitch and having to choose at which point in time to freeze the frame. If you have to get the lines out, the attacker is level and onside. No way should WBA's goal have been ruled out last night, the game is in danger of killing itself.

That and Fulham's goal being chalked off. Games becoming a joke.

 

[JLW]

Thats just one extreme of margins to the other. Nothing wrong with the rule now other than arms and toenails should be excluded from the decision.

You watch there will an alternative league table with the new rules and guess who will be top

 

[TheBigIguana]

Put a small transmitter chip on the back of each player's shirt, up near the neck. Use these to transmit player's positions to the VAR. Each player is then measured by the center "bulk" of their body and not by a shirt sleeve or finger or shoe-lace. I'm certain the technology is available to do this.

Aren't the laws of the game meant to be universal for the most part? Not sure everyone has the money to do this.

 

[JLW]

Put a transmitter chip on the back of each player's shirt, up near the neck. Use these to transmit player's positions to the VAR. Each player is then measured by the center "bulk" of their body and not by a shirt sleeve or finger or shoe-lace. I'm certain the technology is available to do this.

Them sports bra’s they were collects all data like km covered in a game, so that’s possible. Who makes the transmitter chips though? Please don’t say Bill Gates

 

[davids]

Where the lines are drawn will always be contentious, although I've not seen a single VAR decision called out for when the ball was classed as "played". The point I was making is that once any part of a player is beyond the defender, they have an advantage. That is why it should remain offside.

What Wenger is proposing is a massive advantage to the attacker. To allow a player to be a whole body ahead of the defender, running in that direction while the defender has to turn would kill the game as defenders would go deep and just hoof it over the top on the counter.

Don't know,the game from the 60s up until it went technology mental was fun to watch

 

[verreauxi]

Aren't the laws of the game meant to be universal for the most part? Not sure everyone has the money to do this.

Yeah, sure, but VAR is only in the PL and not in the Championship league, so I didn't really think we were talking about universal rules.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Yeah, sure, but VAR is only in the PL and not in the Championship league, so I didn't really think we were talking about universal rules.

OK but if you're changing offside to center of body mass that isn't repeatable for everyone

 

[verreauxi]

OK but if you're changing offside to center of body mass that isn't repeatable for everyone

Not sure what you mean. Each player is measured by the same body location (chip on back of shirt up near neck that transmits signal to VAR to draw lines), which is certainly less arbitrary than the VAR using their own judgement about where to draw the line. I seem to recall one game where the VAR said the captain's armband was used to draw the line and had it not been for the armband a different decision would have occurred.

 

[TheBigIguana]

Not sure what you mean. Each player is measured by the same body location (chip on back of shirt up near neck that transmits signal to VAR to draw lines), which is certainly less arbitrary than the VAR using their own judgement about where to draw the line. I seem to recall one game where the VAR said the captain's armband was used to draw the line and had it not been for the armband a different decision would have occurred.

So you're saying the offside rule should be different only for games with VAR? I don't really like that.

 

[verreauxi]

So you're saying the offside rule should be different only for games with VAR? I don't really like that.

I agree, but that's already the reality it seems. The PL, but not the championship or L1 or L2 has VAR, so a different set of rules already applies. I'm just suggesting a way to reduce the arbitrariness in the PL use of VAR with respect to where the offside lines are drawn.

 

[Lineker]

OK but if you're changing offside to center of body mass that isn't repeatable for everyone

That has been the excuse used by fifa in various contexts over the years (ifab maybe?) To not implement certain rules changes.or interpretations.

Quite frankly, if we are going with radical changes, I question the need for an offside rule at all. If I'm not mistaken, at the time the rule was implemented, teams had a row of 9 forwards almost like rugby backs, one sweeper and a goalie.

I'm not saying it is the right solution or even worth doing, but I would certainly be interested to see how that would play out with top tactician and players.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He's spot on.

"Daylight"

Give benefit to the attacker.