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New round of covid boosters. Will you get yours?

Will you book acovid booster?

  • No

    Votes: 57 51.4%

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 44.1%

  • Conspiracy theory on toast

    Votes: 5 4.5%
  • Total voters
    111
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dholliday said:
we're in a brutal minority on here, degsy.

but as long as we have the freedom to choose i guess there's not much else to say on it.
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Not really - a lot of us have taken the first 1 or 2, or 1/booster, or decided against it altogether for whatever reason.

There's just only 1 person* being a bit of a knob thinking he genuinely knows better than actual doctors and scientists, explaining stuff about proteins as if you're a biologist yourself lol Or quoting articles overblowing the facts in the articles themselves, i.e. saying "X may cause Y in SOME INDIVIDUALS", whereas the quoted article speaks of a ridiculously low percentage, but that's okay, freedom of lies speech, right?

To each their own, but I sincerely hope you've never taken the polio vaccine, for example, as some of you appear to be older and from the, what would've been, "first batch" of polio - a disease now eradicated by the same vaccine virologists and actual doctors have developed and you seem to know everything about.

I've been lucky enough to have gone through it a few times and it was easy.

I've got friends who passed away from it who had your stance or thought their organisms would do better. Under 25 and healthy.

I've got colleagues who were in hospital on oxygen for a month who had your stance, and then they changed it when they barely got out alive.

I've got friends and literally 0 of us has any lasting or even minor side effects and have gotten covid afterwards with less than flu symptoms.

More power to you if you think that, hope you go through it with minor symptoms if you do, and whatever - your body your choice and that.

Also literally no one in the history of the vaccines ever, any type of covid vaccine, has claimed that covid vaccines stop spread - they reduce your chance to get infected and/or have serious lasting damages.

* who got banned from CA for spreading the horse medication misinformation back in the day, worth mentioning.
 
DualityNSNO said:
literally no one in the history of the vaccines ever, any type of covid vaccine, has claimed that covid vaccines stop spread.
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literally:






So that's the Head of CDC, the US President, the chief medical advisor, and the mainstream media all literally telling the public that vaccinated people won't spread the virus.

But apart from them...literally no one else in history has ever said stuff like this x



This right here is a microcosm of what I deal with here on GOT (see also recent pages in the Elon Musk thread).

It's fascinating...why I can't keep away for long. There's something happening at a mass-psychological level. Some kind of programming.


This video has a good go at trying to understand it:

 

dholliday said:
But apart from them...literally no one else in history has ever said stuff like this x
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Read the rest of my post and reply to that, you absolute lunatic.

Hopefully links you send don't carry your own type of e-AIDS, no computer vaccine can prevent that.

Your first link - do I need to fish out the "horse medicine helps" bs that you genuinely believe? Cuz suspiciously right leaning politicians and "doctors" (read: chiropractors) spouted that at the time. There was also a dog medicine prevalent in Europe as Ivermectin is literally banned for human consumption lol

The second link - "SUGGESTS", as you yourself love hanging to every single word anyone has said ever, like any conspiracy nut.

Read the rest of my post, I've read yours. Not watching that last video though, arsed about a channel like that.

Also deep dive in the rabbit holes on the other side to be actually informed.

Free world, or so it goes.
 
dholliday said:
The spike-protein isn't the virus per se, it's the entry-point of the virus. The mRNA-vaccine is effectively against the entry-point, not against the virus cells itself (which is what traditional live/dead-virus vaccines do).

You've consistently experienced "terrible" (your words) side-effects from the jab. 5 times now you've experienced this. This indicates a consistent over-active immune response to what the jab is doing. This is unusual in many respects: not least getting a vaccine for one singular virus 5 times within 24 months...especially when your body appears to be trying to tell you that it's suffering after every time.

Anyone who's had Covid more than once often report the infections being quite different to each other, regardless of vaccination status. This is natural as coronaviri mutate, and they affect folk differently. Like common colds.

Your body's response to the vaccine is no indication of what your body's response would be to an infection, because with an infection it's not the spike-protein which does the damage (as it's merely an entry-point), it's the virus cells which do the damage...hence there being little actual evidence of vaccine-effectiveness as the mRNA-vaccine doesn't replicate an infection....it only replicates 'the door' to an infection.

Which would be great if it meant an infection then finding that 'door' closed. But as we know, replicating that 'door' via mRNA-vaccine still doesn't prevent the actual virus from getting in.

So if it doesn't do that, what does it do?


In one of the largest peer-reviewed studies of its kind: almost half-a-million subjects accounted for in a study determining the risk factor of Covid first-infection, and re-infection. As expected, for high-risk folk an infection increased the risk of premature death....and a re-infection further increased this risk.

So far, so grim. But we know this from other infectious diseases like the flu.

What's relevant for the multi-jabbers out there is the conclusion that "The risks were evident regardless of vaccination status".


There is no evidence that the side-effects from the mRNA-vaccines (spike-protein weighted) give any clue as to how the same individual may react to a sars-cov-2 infection (virus-cell weighted). On the contrary, there is evidence that vaccination makes little-to-no difference to infection-symptoms in the Omicron-era...this is also evidenced by the UK-government data I linked earlier, which told us the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed deaths/hospitalisations roughly corresponds with the ratio of vaxxed/unvaxxed adults.


Further: the vaccines may cause Long-Covid symptoms in some individuals. It goes without saying that the more one jabs, the higher the risk of this happening (especially if after each jab "terrible" side-effects are experienced).



Each to their own and all that...but in my view a sober reading of available data objectively makes an unconvincing case for healthy folk to repeat-jab.
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Choice quote time. Interestingly the authors of the paper cited offer the following conclusion:

"Given the likelihood that SARS-CoV-2 will continue to mutate and might remain a threat for years if not decades, leading to the emergence of variants or subvariants that might be more immune-evasive, and given that reinfections are occurring and might continue to occur due to these emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants at scale in many countries across the globe, and given that reinfection contributes nontrivial health risk both in the acute and postacute phases, a strategy that would result in vaccines that are more durable, cover a broad array of variants (variant-proof vaccine strategy), reduce transmission (and subsequently reduce the risk of infection and reinfection) and reduce both acute and long-term consequences in people who get infected or reinfected is urgently needed"

So rather than rejection of the efficacy of vaccines per se, they intimate the changeable nature of the virus is the issue.

So. Whose take shall we put our faith in? Ivermectin man with a clear agenda, or the considered thoughts of the article authors?

Answers on a postcard...

@RAFUH
 

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