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New Stadium- How to size it?

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well done there @catcherintherye ;
A quick look at our 'peak' years - or even average years, would show that what ever the official capacity was, we only hit it for 'special/big games,' Derby's and Untd.

For me, Simple graphs can show general info and possible trends easier
It's beyond my level of Idleness/Excel skills to do ( for one thing I'd have to go out and buy graph paper), but I would like to see one containing
Total ground capacity per Ann. pre and post standing ban
% attendance per Ann.
Football attendances trends in general
Some quantative measurement of our relative success or failure in a given season.

Short version;
55k with room/capacity for extension
No 'kin running track
No soulless bowl - 4 defined sides close to the action - some sort of squashy Oblate Spheroid?
Leitch criss-crosses
Brick cladding
 
I understand why some blues are of the opinion that we are not a big enough club to fill a stadium with a capacity of 60,000 or more. After all, we sometimes fail to fill Goodison. However, according to the club's own data, over a quarter of the seats at Goodison have an obstructed view. And a move to a new stadium almost always increases a club's attendances massively.

When Arsenal played at Highbury they almost never had capacity attendances and Highbury only held 39,000 people. Conversely, the Emirates, a stadium with a capacity of 60,000, is almost always full. And West Ham's average attendance has shot up by over 20,000 since their move to the Olympic Stadium.

Fans are much more likely to want to watch their team in a state-of-the-art stadium than in a decrepit stadium that is riddled with obstructed views, like Goodison.
 
good article.

For me it is important that the new stadium should be bigger than Anfield as Goodison was for 100 years until
Billy Liar became a Director and the decline of Goodison began. A bigger stadium makes a statement on so many
levels.

Another important aspect is that there should be a large standing area. Recent security developements and the experience of the Budesliga where large, safe standing enclosures go hand-in-hand with reasonable ticket prices show that standing can be achieved. And what is better than standing on a terrace watching footie?

65,000 looks about right.
 
canuck said:
A question perhaps not thought about. While we are all discussing what size stadium we want does the surrounding areas and infrastructure have to be considered and what it can handle on a matchday with regards size of a stadium?
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For people on Twitter get onto our Mayor, Joe Anderson, and let him know that we want him to ensure that our stadium will have the surrounding infrastructure in place to allow us to expand to 70-80000.
 
Got to be 60,000 as a minimum, I went to Aresnal on Wednesday with my son. they had nearly 60k for a crappy cup competition against reading.
£10 for me and £5 for the lad. I'm not a great lover of the stadium and the fans are contemptible morons but the club filled the stadium by massively reducing ticket prices. Everton is a huge club and people need to remember that, we would fill 60k easy with the right ticket price structure in place.
 

If we build a state of the art stadium on the banks of the Mersey, the excitement amongst the fanbase would outstrip anything in my lifetime (including winning the FA Cup). The demand to attend matches would be huge.

We're currently selling out Goodison at 40 000, with all of its obstructed views, poor leg room and poor concourses (poor facilities all round for modern football).

An extra 15 000 - 20 000 fans seems very plausible to me, providing ticket prices are similar. We should go for 60 000 capacity.
 
Really good article @catcherintherye . Just checked - for anyone wanting tickets for the Swansea game, there are four (yes 4!) left for a game that is still over three weeks away! I have no doubt that we are more than capable of regularly filling a 60-65,000 capacity stadium on the waterfront! One thing we should ban at the new place though is those god forsaken half and half scarves that can be seen so regularly at OT and bigstand united!
 
Hickson9 said:
If we build a state of the art stadium on the banks of the Mersey, the excitement amongst the fanbase would outstrip anything in my lifetime (including winning the FA Cup). The demand to attend matches would be huge.

We're currently selling out Goodison at 40 000, with all of its obstructed views, poor leg room and poor concourses (poor facilities all round for modern football).

An extra 15 000 - 20 000 fans seems very plausible to me, providing ticket prices are similar. We should go for 60 000 capacity.
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This is it.

There is a whole army of Everton minded Millenials out there whom haven't picked up the matchgoing habit because on the odd occasion they go to Goodison, they are totally underawed not only with the ground itself, but by the environs when approached from the maze of streets between County Road and Goodison Riad.

I myself walk along Westminster Road up Spellow Lane and it is quite dispiriting even before the game starts.

But these younger people, they go to Goodison.....heaven help them if their seat is more than a few rows back in the Lower Bullens because if the ball goes twenty feet in the air they lose sight of it :blush:

Then they go home and watch televised games from the majesty of OT, Emirates, Etihad etc. and the prospects of a return trip to Goodison doesn't grab them by the throat.

And many of them never come back.....or if they do, only rarely.

But give them a new, impressive stadium by the banks of the most iconic river in the country and like you, I believe thousands more will flock to it.

And it is not only the Millenials we need to chase.

Football tourism is big in this city and it all goes in one direction......to Mordor.

Time we were tapping into that market as well and we will have no bother filling an extra 15,000 to 20,000 seats IMO ;)
 
Alanbileysfeathercut said:
What was film where it says if you build it they will come?
Must be 60k
Prices must be reasonable
Facilities for pre match
Parking or accessibility through whatever means
Even away fans leaving the stadium in peace ( look at the problems at the publicly funded whu ground)
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Imagine the stadium with a food village beside it that included a load of bars... all owned by EFC!
 
Khalekan said:
This is it.

There is a whole army of Everton minded Millenials out there whom haven't picked up the matchgoing habit because on the odd occasion they go to Goodison, they are totally underawed not only with the ground itself, but by the environs when approached from the maze of streets between County Road and Goodison Riad.

I myself walk along Westminster Road up Spellow Lane and it is quite dispiriting even before the game starts.

But these younger people, they go to Goodison.....heaven help them if their seat is more than a few rows back in the Lower Bullens because if the ball goes twenty feet in the air they lose sight of it :blush:

Then they go home and watch televised games from the majesty of OT, Emirates, Etihad etc. and the prospects of a return trip to Goodison doesn't grab them by the throat.

And many of them never come back.....or if they do, only rarely.

But give them a new, impressive stadium by the banks of the most iconic river in the country and like you, I believe thousands more will flock to it.

And it is not only the Millenials we need to chase.

Football tourism is big in this city and it all goes in one direction......to Mordor.

Time we were tapping into that market as well and we will have no bother filling an extra 15,000 to 20,000 seats IMO ;)
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Tourists on the duck boat tour could sail right up into the stadium as the last stop at 2.45pm. £££££££££££
 

royvernon39 said:
Another important aspect is that there should be a large standing area. Recent security developements and the experience of the Budesliga where large, safe standing enclosures go hand-in-hand with reasonable ticket prices show that standing can be achieved. And what is better than standing on a terrace watching footie?
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Sitting and watching it with the occasional standing for key moments.

I dont get the obsession with standing to be honest. Each to their own and all that but we are not animals.

Bigger seats would be nice though....
 
Papa Shango said:
Sitting and watching it with the occasional standing for key moments.

I dont get the obsession with standing to be honest. Each to their own and all that but we are not animals.

Bigger seats would be nice though....
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What's standing at the match, or anywhere, got to do with animals? I hate sitting down at the match, but I appreciate that others like to sit without calling them stuff!
 
Big Neville Southall said:
What's standing at the match, or anywhere, got to do with animals? I hate sitting down at the match, but I appreciate that others like to sit without calling them stuff!
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I must say given the choice.....as a young fellow.....I would never have taken a seat.

And I didn't ;)

But these days if the ground was limited to standing spectators only I would, sadly, have to 'and up me rattle and become a solely stay at home armchair fan :(
 

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