Next Everton Manager

[trueblue10]

just cos you read something somewhere doesnt make it true mate.

I really hope your right

 

[leslad]

I know f all obviously and he's inexperienced but for me it's unsworth until someone better becomes available. Think he's done ok so far given what he was thrown into, which really was awful. not really sure what any of the names linked could do differently

 

[Bungle]

I've looked for the old "Sam Alladyce Fanboy thread" that used to be on GOT.
Can't find it ?
If anyone could vault it, that would be ace please ??

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-sam-allardyce-fanboy-thread.73043/

 

[blulouie]

But that's the point. No one is claiming Allardyce is first choice. We've worked our way down the last and arrived at Allardyce.

And you know this for sure Kev ?
You really think Moshiri has exhausted every possibility in his seach for the new man.
I think he's only just started with his "list"

 

[blulouie]

Who can the outsider be?

Luis Enrique

 

[kenada_blue]

I agree this is about opinions, and ours are literally poles apart. On two fronts.

Firstly, I do believe we have a fantastic group of young players available to us at the moment. Probably as many as 15 aged 24 or under who have a genuine chance of being premiership quality, provided we have the right type of manager. Now they may not be the "shining light of the league", but for me, our youngsters have probably been the shining light of our season so far. It's the experienced players who have let us down, not the kids. And I also believe that many of those young players could develop together and form the nucleus of a team who could challenge for honours, both home and abroad, in 3 or so years time. Yes we desperately need a new striker and a defensive leader and we should make these our priority in January. But we also have players coming back from injury who can make a difference and, in my opinion, we will play our way clear of trouble before too long.

Tuchel is my first choice and we should be doing everything possible to get him in my opinion. We have the ability to offer the kind of salary foreign clubs can only dream of, plus a lot of the worlds best managers are coming to the premiership to manage. For an aspiring manager, Everton are probably the only club that can genuinely challenge the elite in this country. He may have his heart set on another position, but otherwise why wouldn't he come to us? If we can't get Tuchel, well somebody else who has similar ethos to him. If we have to wait until the end of the season to get our new man well I'd keep Unsy in charge until then.

The second thing is Allardyce. Now I'm self aware enough to understand that my loathing of the guy as a human being is affecting my opinion of him as Everton's next manager. But notwithstanding that, I truly believe he is the wrong manager for us at the moment. He'll take us back a decade or more. The glass ceiling will be never more evident and he'll bring in a group of players who will play to his long balls style. But above everything else, the young players we have at the moment will not get a look in as he will revert to experience. People who want him as our next manager do so purely because they believe he will keep us up, and he may well do that. But he will do so his way by managing for the moment rather than the future, and I wouldn't be surprised if he left the club in a position where we did get relegated soon after he left, which has been his legacy to the majority of clubs he's managed before.

We've just had an experience of a manager who manages for the "now" in Koeman, and I agree with you that he has left the club in a pretty sorry state having wasted a large part of £200m. But luckily we do have this safety net of our young players ready to take up the mantle, which is why I don't think it's all doom and gloom like some of you. But if we do appoint Allardyce I'm pretty certain we won't have that same safety net by the time he leaves.

I don't expect you to agree with any of this mate. It's all about opinions. But I feel incredibly sad right now at the prospect of this man being appointed Everton manager, as it will literally change my life. Sounds very dramatic, but I'm 57 now and Everton have been a big part of my life for well over 40 years, and have been a STH for the last 6 years. I know I won't watch Everton again whilst Allardyce is connected with us.

Oh I get you and I totally understand.

But my personal belief is that I think the squad is very unstable after a significant financial injection. We don't know if the board will pull the plug on huge transfers in January after being burnt for 2 seasons.

Additionally you cant rely on 20 year olds to take us out of this mess and you wouldn't want them too.

We won't get Tuchel. How can you have a shortlist that includes Dyche and Tuchel they're completely polar opposites. It's completely pie in the sky as he's available. It's like us thinking we'd get Mourinho when Martinez was sacked.

The club won't torpedo itself if Sam came and went. The infrastructure is better than any of the clubs he's been at previously who replaced him with managers lesser than him.

My opinion comes from actually being worried with the squad. I think it's awful where Palace and West Ham on paper have better. And if we put belief in some untested manager it could end horribly.

We need stability not aspirations at the moment

 

[Steve Wigan]

...Sky saying Allardyce, Unsworth are on the short list along with a Premiership manager and a top international coach.

Phil Scolari just left his job in China......

 

[e.cantona]

 

[Toffeelover]

Looks like it is going to be this but really any manager could do that.

 

[bluestevon]

Or him for believing and retweeting that, hmm - him i believe

 

[dholliday]

...Sky saying Allardyce, Unsworth are on the short list along with a Premiership manager and a top international coach.

Dyche & Simeone are the likely two unnamed ones, the latter being the fantasy one to make it look like we've got ambition.

 

[Maine road Man]

I've not come here to wind you lot up, being a blue Manc, I've not forgotten we used to win the club cock ups cup almost annually, only Newcastle seemed to give us any real competition for it.

Back to my point. You can now afford to go out and attract much better players. If I can use a a restaurant analogy. Big fat Sam could afford to order some real posh nosh in a top restaurant, but BFS would cause embarrassment by asking for pie and chips.

The guy is just an egg n' chips man managerial dinasour. I really can't believe Everton want him tbh.

 

[milks]

Yep he paid 10 million compensation for Koeman - a great track record!

His first choice. He paid the money. He got his man. Good decision, demonstrates proactivity.
Easy to forget how vaunted Koeman was in these parts 12 months ago. Shame it all fell away so quickly.

It's no slight on Moshiri though.

 

[mightymoyes]

has mosh been on talksport blabbing again or something?

 

[bluestevon]

Tweet from the same guy on 23rd of October, not a single other source or even he has said anything about wagner, now he is the only one saying about this, file under a journo who writes for the gambling times

Graeme Bailey‏Verified account @GraemeBailey
Graeme Bailey Retweeted Everton

Ronald Koeman wins the latest Premier League sack race - as I said over the weekend they like David Wagner - https://goo.gl/kFTkjN

Graeme Bailey added,

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6:02 AM - 23 Oct 2017