Next Everton Manager

[trueblue10]

Course we do. It's gross negligence that this window has gone by and wasted in terms of rebooting the season with a new man definitely in charge, be that Unsworth or another manager.

It will be after Northern Ireland and Wales play on Tuesday.

If Ireland qualify it will be Coleman.
If Ireland go out welcome to Everton, Micheal O'Niell.

The club said this week, they were looking at an International manager along side a premier league manager and Unsworth.

Premier league manager or Unsworth would have been announced by now , in my opinion.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Even before he was binned, and as others have pointed out, this club hires people to make sure we have irons in the fire to move quickly from one managerial regime to the next. Early or late sacking, it didn't matter. The process should have been in motion.

Thing is Dave - Moshiri is the money man - he hasn't a scooby on how to run a football club and I don't think he's interested either. So he offloads day to day running of the club to Elstone and Kenwright. They are the ones that need to have an operational, managerial continuity plan in place.

Elstone is inept as a CEO and Bill is too much of an old school sentamentalist. This effectively means that neither of them can perform their roles properly. Moshiri is therefore guilty of poor governance. There is only one thing can stop this never-ending cycle of amateurish lunacy and that is a full clearout.

1. Elstone has to go - he is utterly useless
2. Bill should be moved into a non-exec position
3. Woods has to go, the filthy little rat
4. Walsh should be demoted to cleaning the bogs at FF

Sort it out FFS!

 

[Lob]

Going to be disappointed and peeved if (or when) we come out of this international break and go to Palace still with no quality Manager in place. We have known we have a serious problem for a couple of months, not just since Koeman got sacked. Rhino isn't the answer short term or long term. 'Getting' Everton isn't enough to warrant keeping him in charge and wont change our fortunes. Granted he was thrown in at the deep end and had some tough fixtures but all we had to show for the spell was a late comeback and win against Watford at home in the 4th match. Lets be honest, we should not be going 2 nil behind to Watford at home in the first place and we were lucky winning it in the end. The problem still exists and hasn't gone away. He has been making the same old mistakes i.e constant changes, players in wrong positions, no balance, no pace, no width but he brings another downside with him too and that is his inexperience and being a little bit too friendly with some of the players which results in his selections being a bit baffling at times such as leaving out in form players who should be playing such as Vlasic.

We have a sort of decent run of games coming up where we might be able to repair some of the damage and collate some points but we will continue to struggle and will have missed a real opportunity if we go into it the same as we are now. It is inexcusable imo.

 

[TheFinnFan]

It’s a bit mental isn’t it?

Why don’t we ever do anything normal? I’m all for taking time to get the right man and if it was over the summer then I’d be feeling a bit more comfortable but this is during the season and it needs sorting.

And this break...we could have utilized it...like last time (with Koeman dithering ) again we are screwing up our chance.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Yes, that's fair enough. But in this intervening period there has to have been a decisive judgement made on what we do from the people with the power to appoint - we have no manager and a caretaker who doesn't know if he's still caretaker.

Please tell me you dont think they've put the last three weeks to good use.

No. I absolutely agree with everything you have said in that post.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Article on the Everton site, an interview with Royle, talking up Unsworth and Ebbrell and their qualities for the job. Reckon that's been put out on purpose trying to ease tensions. I reckon Unsy and Ebbrell are getting it. That eliminates Stubbs at least lol

 

[Bob Elstone]

I'm praying the delay is a sign it's not unsworth and co.

He's not shown enough on the pitch to warrant the job.

 

[Del-boy]

Unsworth would be a disaster. Nothing against him, he just lacks the experience to take over at this time.

 

[Efcjake]

It’s a bit mental isn’t it?

Why don’t we ever do anything normal? I’m all for taking time to get the right man and if it was over the summer then I’d be feeling a bit more comfortable but this is during the season and it needs sorting.

This all ends with Unsworth seeing the season out. Every day going by makes that more likely. I've resigned myself to the inevitability of it.

They can't come to an agreement at the board level, or if they have they can't get him. There's no reason for the process to take this long by choice. They're dithering more than Moyes now.

 

[Blues Harp]

Benitez was right....we are a "small club" ....until the amateurs running it go. Embarrassing.

 

[Bullet]

Neck and neck between Marco Silva and Unsworth now on Skybet. 6/4 and 5/4 respectively. Allardyce out to 7/1.
Lots of money has gone onto Silva in the last 30 hours with nothing in the media. It's likely we're in negotiation with his reps but it'll be a big task to convince him to leave Watford so soon.

 

[Frang]

say we get relegated this year, hypothetically speaking, and we go down by 6 points. we appointed a new manager in mid December, and he was doing well with us, but he had just that little bit too much to do, as Unsworth had only managed one win...#

this is what could happen blues.

a new manager need appointing, and ASAP.

West Ham are in the same boat, but have managed to do things in the correct manner. old out and new man in. during the international break, as to give him time to familiarise himself with the players.

we still have a caretaker manager, who should really be no wins form 4.

 

[matty1878]

Neck and neck between Marco Silva and Unsworth now on Skybet. 6/4 and 5/4 respectively. Allardyce out to 7/1.
Lots of money has gone onto Silva in the last 30 hours with nothing in the media. It's likely we're in negotiation with his reps but it'll be a big task to convince him to leave Watford so soon.

So why negotiate if we know he won't leave? It's wasting our time

 

[COYBL25]

say we get relegated this year, hypothetically speaking, and we go down by 6 points. we appointed a new manager in mid December, and he was doing well with us, but he had just that little bit too much to do, as Unsworth had only managed one win...#

this is what could happen blues.

a new manager need appointing, and ASAP.

West Ham are in the same boat, but have managed to do things in the correct manner. old out and new man in. during the international break, as to give him time to familiarise himself with the players.

we still have a caretaker manager, who should really be no wins form 4.

If you're drinking, now wouid be a good time to stop Wizzo

 

[Borussin]

Monchi was the stand out choice at that time. Over a 15 year period he took a club that were in the second division to win 4 European titles and out 10 overall. What you also saw at Sevilla, was a process on recruitment, with the same type of managers being sought out. That was right down to the last appointment, Emery went so they got in Sampioli. At no point did they ever become distracted by romantic notions of a "superstar on the sidelines in the hollywood of football".

I am not going to berate Moshiri for not closing on Monchi/Emery. It was the right play and had we have got them both we would be in far better shape. If we had got them both, alongside the right changes at board level, the club could go to the very top within 5 years. They are both that good.

That being said, he didn't close the deal. It was a hard sell, Monchi had turned down Real Madrid and while I think we have potential to be as big as Roma we are still a fair bit off (particularly in the boardroom).

Walsh was an interesting pick. You were asking him to step up to a role. There's no doubt his scouting ability is fantastic, and at our club has been under utilised. I have little doubt that had Monchi been told he was working into Elstone he'd have run a mile. We took a gamble on him being able to add all the other parts of the job, as evidenced above by Monchi and it hasn't worked out.

I think the club benefits from a proper DOF. Look at clubs who have a smiler profile to us, in terms of strengths and weaknesses. You will see Dortmund, Monaco, Ajax etc who have topped the list of overachieving. Particularly Dortmund I sense a lot of this is down to Zorc and the structure of he has put into place. I would throw an enormous amount at him to get him to come. I'm happy for Walsh to work into him, but as you say he's not a DOF.

Sooner or later Moshiri is going to have to make a decision on the old board. They will get Everton relegated. What is more important to him? His friendship to Kenwright/not hurting Elstone/Kenwright/Woods feelings, or the club and more importantly his investment?

Sorry Catcher, the only way Michael Zorc is leaving Dortmund is when he retires, or they move him upstairs as it where. He's been at the club for almost 40 years now.
Thing is though. to show how fickle and how quickly football perceptions change, Zorc was under huge pressure at Dortmund when things where going badly for them prior to Jürgen Klopp being hired. And even when things started to turn around after that, I remember him getting a lot of stick from the fans for swapping Mladen Petrić for Mo Zidan. But of course he was vindicated. It does though take time to build a structure, and it is about having a group of people who work well together more than anything I suspect. At Dortmund it was Zorc, head scout Sven Mislintat, CEO Aki Watzke, and Klopp working as an unit that got them on track after years of problems. But for sure Zorc has huge influence at the club and I would say is likely one of the better sporting directors around, but what I am saying, it did take him a LONG time to become that.