Next Everton Manager

[Lowste]

I have a bit of a problem with people watching someone manage another team and then thinking they’d be good here. That’s a completely different set of players what’s to say we’d play good football with who we have?

How else do you judge a manager as surely this is the only real criteria. I guess same criteria goes for players as well

 

[Lowste]

He'd be a better bet than Warnock. Or Koeman, for that matter.

Surely our standards haven't hit rock bottom yet

 

[ijjysmith]

Mick McCarthy disagrees

Too good for us

Trust me. All jokes aside I’d be made up....

....if he left Ipswich.

 

[Nymzee]

How else do you judge a manager as surely this is the only real criteria. I guess same criteria goes for players as well

Oh I know it is but you can see my point. It’s like a Burton fan watching Man City and thinking Guardiola can replicate that style if he was their manager.

Shakhtar are full of quick, creative Brazilian players. We do not.

 

[Lowste]

Oh I know it is but you can see my point. It’s like a Burton fan watching Man City and thinking Guardiola can replicate that style if he was their manager.

Shakhtar are full of quick, creative Brazilian players. We do not.

Fair point
I think you sign a manager on what he can do to your squad and can he improve it.
It would be interesting what players he bought for Shakhtar, as that may give us a clue in players he would look to be signing

 

[Toffeelover]

Oh I know it is but you can see my point. It’s like a Burton fan watching Man City and thinking Guardiola can replicate that style if he was their manager.

Shakhtar are full of quick, creative Brazilian players. We do not.

Might not get us playing like that club or Bayern - but might sort out the team selections better and introduce different tactics to bring out the football in our players.

 

[Eggs]

Oh I know it is but you can see my point. It’s like a Burton fan watching Man City and thinking Guardiola can replicate that style if he was their manager.

Shakhtar are full of quick, creative Brazilian players. We do not.

....I think a lot depends on whether a manager has built the team he’s managing. I’ve always been an advocate of looking at a managers record in the transfer market, who has he brought in and has their value increased. That maybe a little less significant when you have a DoF but it’s still a key competency.

 

[jceverton]

Yes thats fair. There is pre Liverpool Benitez and post Liverpool Benitez.

He got very lucky to win the CL with Liverpool but probably quite unlucky not to win the league. That being said, towards the end he started spending huge sums of money on ordinary players, and picked a fight with the owners to distort the narratives which the KKKult took hook line and sinker.

After that, all I have seen is a manager who has gone to European Champions Inter and left them mid table. Went to European Champions Madrid and left them getting annihilated by Barca. Went to Chelsea and became the first manager post Roman to finish outside the top 4. Went to Newcastle and took them from being out of the relegation zone to being relegated. It's pretty ordinary.

Most Kopites go on about him as if he's in the same league as Mourinho, Guardiola et al. He's not for me. He's a similar level to Koeman, Pochetino, Emery etc, guys a level below the elite managers.

That being said he is very strong tactically and get win set piece games very well. I think he'd be completely the wrong choice for where we look to be going re Walsh, Moshiri and youth investment. If a certain Russian came on board and started lashing money about though I could see him being a potential Mancinish type of fit and work quite well for us. The ex Liverpool thing really doesn't bother me, in fact it's a major attraction. If he won a trophy with us before Klopp won anything with Liverpool it would lead to massive splits in the reds which would be absolute hilarity.

There maybe an elite level of managers but Koeman is not and never has been on the same level as Emery. The guy won three consecutive Europa Leagues with practically 3 different starting 11's whilst having a negative net spend. I'd put Pochettino well above Koeman as well. In fact Koeman to me is in with the Pulis, Allardyce, Moyes of this world and that maybe being generous!

 

[longers]

Sad thing is we will probably have to go through several more managers before we find one who can actually take us to the next level.

 

[Frankie Four Fingers]

Would love us to go after Howe

 

[bitter-no-better]

Would love us to go after Howe

i will give you two fingers to that one Frankie.

 

[catcherintherye]

Haha, if proof were needed.

Proof of what mate? Do you think he's a higher level manager than say Pochetino?

 

[Joey66]

Got to get rid of Koeman first that's the biggest task as our board have blinkers on!

 

[Blues Harp]

Got to get rid of Koeman first that's the biggest task as our board have blinkers on!

Agree about the board Joe but have no confidence in them to find the right replacement for him if he is sacked/walks.

 

[EFC Si]

No one suggesting Chris Coleman?