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Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%
  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%
  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%
  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%

  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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I think Esk mentioned over 3 years. The more I read about Moshiri the more I think he is significantly wealthier than the 1.9 billion is is allegedly worth. (That has increased significantly from the 1.3 from an earlier estimate).

The Sources who quote that have openly said they have little knowledge of how much he has (it's Forbes an American company) who don't know whats happening in Russia. They have also openly said they have conservatively put his value at 1.9 billion.

I suspect it will be much higher for reasons it is difficult to speculate here.
I don't see him spending half of that figure on the club,Ashley at Newcastle or Short at Sunderland are worth an estimated 2-3 billion each and spent no where half of their wealth on their clubs,same can be said with Abramovich at Chelsea or Lewis at Spurs.

Billionaire stay billionaires for a reason because they play it safe with their money and only invest when there is a return or profit.

Plus with FFP still around owners cannot just spend nilly willy of old,Chelsea got lucky as they was no FFP and spent around 600-700 million on player recruitement before FFP came in,since then Abramovich modus operandi is the club only spends what it makes as he wants the club to be self sufficient by improving the turnover,the days of him splashing his own cash have been over for a few seasons now.City have gotten past FFP by nefarious means of creating a different company that funnels a sizeable chunk of the percentage of the players wages so the wages in the actual turnoverlook lower for FFP,also they have owner linked Commercial deals with Etihad Aabar Arabtec Etisalat and AbuDhabiTourism that gives them a commercial revenues of £173 million pounds which is ranked 2nd in world football hahaha,they also rig the matchday revenue by claiming to have a full stadium when every game has lots of empty seats.

I think the first thing Moshiri will want to do is improve the playing side but it will no where near what Abramovich and City have done,also he will want to improve the most important thing in Turnover these days which is commercial revenues and then matchday revenue with a stadium move to maximise the potential of the club.
 
Yes mate. On average Man U, Man C, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs will each earn more than £700m each over the next 5 years.

Man United will generate more than £1.5 bn more than we will do over that time.

That's both the scale of the challenge but the opportunity in front of the new manager.

That seems realistic, Everton have a lot of ground to make up.

But do you think we have the financial muscle to retain our best players moving forward under Moshiri's ownership?

I thought it was a massive statement retaining Stones last summer. It would be nice to see that continue. Big club mentality.
 
I doubt it.

My belief, rightly or wrongly, is that our collapse from March onwards was largely due to Bobby having been told he did not figure in Mr. Mo's plans beyond the end of the season and this led to him becoming de-motivated and the players picking up on it.

Think thats pretty plausible but I'd imagine that its was a case of the straw that broke the camels back rather than just that one thing causing a collapse. The squad confidence in him must have been dented over the past two seasons up to that point with Eto, Distin, Kev, poor results etc.
 

I'm surprised de Boer has remained favourite throughout. Surely if we wanted him we would have already got him?

As it is the biggest and best job in the world, were giving everyone a chance to apply....before me make the final call.
 
Look who was front row at Goodison last night

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Regarding Moyes' appearance last night and him being around Kenwright, why would we not try and leaver information from him about prospective Spanish managers. Moyes made an absolute show of himself at Man U and I would imagine (and hope) he has tried to build bridges back with the club he enjoyed such a sustained stint at. Would I or the majority want him back as manager? No. Would I be happy for him to offer a bit of advice on a player or manager. Certainly. And it was great to see other familiar faces at the ground yesterday to watch Bellew live out his dream.
 

Plus with FFP still around owners cannot just spend nilly willy of old,Chelsea got lucky as they was no FFP and spent around 600-700 million on player recruitement before FFP came in,since then Abramovich modus operandi is the club only spends what it makes as he wants the club to be self sufficient by improving the turnover,the days of him splashing his own cash have been over for a few seasons now.City have gotten past FFP by nefarious means of creating a different company that funnels a sizeable chunk of the percentage of the players wages so the wages in the actual turnoverlook lower for FFP,also they have owner linked Commercial deals with Etihad Aabar Arabtec Etisalat and AbuDhabiTourism that gives them a commercial revenues of £173 million pounds which is ranked 2nd in world football hahaha,they also rig the matchday revenue by claiming to have a full stadium when every game has lots of empty seats.

Very rough back of envelope calculations and looking at FFP regulations we can have a net spend of up to £200 million plus proceeds from player sales plus any uplift in any commercial/sponsorship revenues before having to worry about FFP over the next 3 years.

So for example if we made profits on player sales of £100 million (over 3 years) and our commercial revenues increased by £10 million a year, roughly (assuming 4 year contracts for incoming players) we could have a net spend somewhere close to £350 million in that time.

I'm not saying we will of course, just giving an idea of the upper limit of our spending under current FFP rules.
 
Here's the article being refereed to..

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...de-Boer-Unai-Emery-Premier-League-news-gossip

Everton Uncovered: Our man Paul Joyce reveals who could take over at Goodison Park
THEY would take Manuel Pellegrini’s experience, Frank de Boer’s enthusiasm, Ronald Koeman’s recent track record, David Moyes’ eye for a bargain and David Unsworth’s passion.
By PAUL JOYCE
PUBLISHED: 09:00, Mon, May 30, 2016 | UPDATED: 09:35, Mon, May 30, 2016

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The men who would be king: Manuel Pellegrini, Unai Emery and Frank de Boer
Take a bit from each of the names Everton have so far looked at in their search for a new manager and the perfect candidate can be formed.

Study each in isolation however, and the reason why the process in pinpointing Roberto Martinez’s successor remains ongoing becomes clear.

There is no longer any Jose Mourinho, no Guardiola or Klopp.

Pellegrini is available, wants to stay in the Premier League and can boast title success at Manchester City on a CV that includes impressive bodies of work at Villarreal and Malaga.

But concerns linger as to whether the 62-year-old possesses the drive to lead Everton into what is supposed to be a new era under billionaire Farhad Moshiri.

Did Pellegrini also get the best out of City’s superstars during his three seasons at The Etihad?

Everton have just dismissed one manager they felt was underachieving in Martinez.

De Boer is also on the market and made no secret of the fact he wants the job during talks.

Yet he has no Premier League experience, failed to deliver the title at Ajax in his last two seasons and, after undermining Martinez, Everton’s players are said to favour someone who has worked in England before.

Ideally, Everton hoped the void would be Koeman.

Yet there appears to have been little firm encouragement from the Dutchman that he is desperate to take the upgrade on offer by a move to Goodison Park where there could be more than £100million to spend this summer depending on what happens with John Stones and Romelu Lukaku.

Who could replace Roberto Martinez at Everton?
Thu, May 26, 2016
Who could replace Roberto Martinez at Everton following his dismissal?

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Roberto Martinez has left Goodison Park but who could replace the Spanish boss?

Beyond his last two seasons at Southampton, Koeman’s managerial career has been patchy with early success at Ajax followed by a number of short-lived spells elsewhere. Either Koeman is interested or he is not.

Moyes impressed Moshiri when meeting the Iranian businessman, who will have the final say on the appointment.

Yet it is hard to see how Moyes returns to the club where he spent 11 years between 2002 and 2013 given how some supporters have reacted to the development he has even been spoken to about the current vacancy.

Moshiri will not want his first major decision to be greeted with anything but widespread approval and that would not be the case even if the willingness of some to downgrade the Scot’s reign is baffling.

One of the accusations aimed at Moyes is that he accepted Everton’s position in the Premier League’s natural order too readily in the latter part of his tenure.

Unsworth – who was in charge for the final game of the season against Norwich after Martinez had been sacked - would bang the drum and is highly-regarded as a young coach having helped nurture the latest talent to roll off Goodison’s production line.

However, it would be a huge step up to lead an Everton team who will be quickly expected to challenge for the top four under Moshiri’s blueprint.

The enquiry about the availability of Manchester City's Joe Hart serves as a statement of intent from a club that intends to “go for it” in the transfer market.

There have yet to be talks with Unai Emery at Sevilla, whose Europa League Final win over Liverpool instantly enhanced his credentials.

He will be sounded out as well and comes with the same pros and cons.

Everton need drive, someone who gets the best of his players and a figurehead supporters can rally behind.

The appointment has to be right, but may supporters have to be realistic.

Then again, Moshiri was spotted spending his weekend in Milan taking in the Champions League final.

Maybe, after hearing Diego Simeone suggest he was thinking about his future at beaten finalists Atletico Madrid, the answer to an exhaustive just became clearer.
 

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