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Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%
  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%
  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%
  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%

  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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Apart from Jose who would be the dream. I don't see why we would look at anybody else but Pelligrini (sp) Free at the end of the season, proven manager. Id rather see him than a De boer or cocu.
 

Right, so, as I said eans-thanks-to-impressive-tactical-balance
- I've been watching most of those on the list cuz I'm a massive nerd and, right now, being perfectly honest, it's not like we're in some amazing form, so I have to kill time before/after our games anyway, as just thinking about us is frustrating :( So here we go, with pictures, and a TL;DR at the end.

Aitor Karanka
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bit meh, really. He could be a good option, don't get me wrong, but Championship and Premiership are two different animals, and he's not yet proven at all, and we definitely want a winner, right? If this was 3 years ago - I'd be okay with it, really, but we want better now, right? He's worked with Mourinho in Madrid, but still...


Mark Hughes, Rafael - ...no comment needed... Please no. Not even gonna include pictures ffs!

Jose
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we really can't afford him. I mean, I'd love and hate him here for several reasons - I admire his tactical style, is a reason to like him - but the man is a walking controversy, and a scandal waiting to happen. Should come with the label "Use at own risk"... Transfer dealings are a bit suspect at times, and he ruins EVERY single winger that has ever played for him (except Ronaldo I guess, but he's basically a football god at this point).

Eddie Howe
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improvement over Karanka, but still not convinced he'd be a proven winner type, really. As a difference to Karanka, he's actually won stuff in his managerial career, but it's really too soon, imo, for him to have this step up - yes, I know we're lower than them right now, but that's not my point - defensively they're as bad as us at times really, but they've managed to turn those draws into wins and losses, whereas we've just drawn or lost them... I know he doesn't have the same bunch of players, but he has essentially his own team and, with the current money situation they're not really skint either - 7m for some Welsh lad, 10m for Afobe, etc.. What I'm trying to say is he might not have the required eye for a transfer. I know we'll have the money now as well, but I'd rather we don't spend £20m on some no-mark, like... Plus he said he wants to stay with his love-child at Bournemouth, so...


David Moyes
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way past his time for us. Simply a "no" here suffices, but - when he came to us, we needed him. He set everything up for safety, then moved slightly up, which was great, but he lacked that final bit of bite and nous. We want progress, not mid-table stability, at least we should want that.

Vitor
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Judas. @MoutsGoat knows better than me here. Winner and all, everywhere he's been, but the man can't seem to stay at a job for more than 5 seconds, so no. Also Rangers wanted him, and that's always a sign to stay clear. The funny hyperlink here is this image, which pops up when you google "Vitor Pereira" a few pages in. Weird.

Frank de Boer
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Personally my favourite for the position, I just like him. From a gameplay point of view, I've said it before, but - he sets his teams up according to the opposition, which is something we've tried to do, but failed for several reasons. If they play a game against tougher opposition - he sets up very much for the counter; packed in defence, quick on the break, and might I say very successfully (in the times I've seen them play recently). When they play smaller teams they're instantly on the front foot, but defensively still stable, and seem to enjoy mixing it up a bit by going both direct and shooting from distance, as well as keeping on the ground. Also has Bergkamp and a Dutch former player (defender or GK, not sure) as assistants. Now, numero dos from the lands of fake-Belgium:

Philip Cocu
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Martinez with actual defending is what I'd say, but in his attempts to kill off games by attacking PSV are really, really open to counters, and that seems to be a bit of a problem for them, from my observations at least. Case and point is the game against Ajax from a few weeks ago - PSV went out to attack, Ajax stayed back and waited for the break. Possession - 70% for PSV. Result - 2:0 to Ajax. Plus he looks like he could be the villain from a Disney film, which I can't decide if it's a good or bad thing.

Both are proven winners though, and both have played in Europe plenty, and both have experience in squad building and using the academies in their respective clubs.

Someone who I don't think we'll get, and is probably gonna split opinion here, but I like him anyway:
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Yup, it's AVB. We all know him, the squatting weirdo. Maybe this is why I like him, #SlavSquat after all. Back to the 'serious' side of this though - he was booted from both his jobs in England, but for inconsistent, rather than bad results. He'd get 3-4 wins, then lose 4:0 to Norwich at home or something, then get 3-4 wins... you get the point. He seems to have removed that from his game so far in Russia, even if the odd hiccup still happens, but that happens to anyone really. Proven winner as well, and my worry would be that we'd sign 75 midfielders under the age of 23 or not use the academy fully. Reason he maybe won't come is because he said he and his family want to move to/closer to Portugal, but England's pretty close I guess, plus he's not ruled out a Prem return, according to some papers recently.


TL;DR, because I know most won't even read this wall of text: I'm a bad nerd and watch footy loads. This is a breakdown of managers with my thoughts about it, read about the ones you want here if you like. I've also put some fun hyperlinks cuz why not, but sadly no animals bumming.

Great post, it's seems that Frank might be suited to us but a massive gamble as Holland is a weak league

Eddie howe needs more experience but his signings have been poor when you look at Pearson at Leicester who brought in vardy and mahrez and huth.

Koeman might be good choice as he got premiership experience who brought mane in but could we lure him from Southampton?


Maybe Pellegrini as he got premiership experience, done wonders with Villarreal and Malaga.

So I would go for someone who got premiership experience as Leicester did unless the manager was someone like Simone as you wouldn't need to worry about lack of experience

So ive narrowed it down to these
koeman
Pellegrini
Villas boas

Pellegrini will have a point to prove and might work better with a smaller budget then city. Bought some great players such as Godin, santi cazorla, isco to Malaga, not amazing but good and let's not talk about city signings, had he even made one good signing for city.
He started with 442 at city using two strikers.
He does favour a 4222. My concern is he suited to Spanish football then English football. The more I think about Pellegrino, the more I like
More on pellegrini football
http://www.typicalcity.org/2013/09/...he-engineers-well-constructed-4-2-2-2-system/

Villas boa might struggle with the goodison fans as he once accused the spurs fans of being to negative at home like Martinez does so this is a concern and is like Martinez where he likes two defensive players in the middle and also had bale like Rodgers did with Suarez and win nothing. Plus he also got battered 6 nil by the rs. So I'm ruling this guy out for me.
More about AVB and his football here
http://outsideoftheboot.com/2015/07/28/tactical-philosophy-andre-villas-boas/

Koeman
As you see I'm focused on signings as I like my managers to have. a good eye as they have total control of transfers
So his signings for Southampton is
Tadic
Pelle
Caulker
Alderweireld on loan which he wanted to sign
Sadio mane
Shane long
Orilo romeu
Virgil van dijk
Bertrand
Forster

I think he made some top signings in there. He also a name and is a winner. Can this translate over to wining as a manager.
He also like working with young players such as prowse. More on his tyep of football at Southampton
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tations-thanks-to-impressive-tactical-balance


I would make Koeman my number 1
 
What kind of odds are we talking about here

.....there's quite a few quoted, including:

Moyes 2-1; Pellegrini 6-1; Mancini 8-1; Mourinho 12-1; Duncan Ferguson 14-1; Stubbs 16-1; Klinsman 16-; Laudrop 16-1; Howe 25-1; Rijkard 25-1; Hiddink 25-1; Benitez 25-1; Ancelloti 33-1; AVB 33-1; Rodgers 33-1; Redknapp 33-1; Hughes 33-1; Phil Neville 33-1; Fowler 33-1; Hibbert 33-1.
 

.....there's quite a few quoted, including:

Moyes 2-1; Pellegrini 6-1; Mancini 8-1; Mourinho 12-1; Duncan Ferguson 14-1; Stubbs 16-1; Klinsman 16-; Laudrop 16-1; Howe 25-1; Rijkard 25-1; Hiddink 25-1; Benitez 25-1; Ancelloti 33-1; AVB 33-1; Rodgers 33-1; Redknapp 33-1; Hughes 33-1; Phil Neville 33-1; Fowler 33-1; Hibbert 33-1.

No Koeman
Live Duncan but please no. I would cry if PHil got another interview.
 
I feel like Roberto has turned us into a non-attractive option for most of the managers being mentioned in this thread.

Why would they want to come to a bottom half club?
 

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