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Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%
  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%
  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%
  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%
  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%

  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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Eh? i was referring to rationalizing the lack of actually winning by pointing to his transfers.

But it's not rationalizing a lack of winning?

What would you expect a brand new manager coming into the PL to achieve with Southampton in his first season, after they were shorn of their best four years. You wouldn't have expected a 7th place finish, no?

And then, the year after, again after losing their better players, a better points total and higher finish...

Everything is relative. I don't understand your point. And he has won things, as well... In fact I think he's won more than Emery has in his career...
 

Stubbs, Ferguson, Unsworth - or at least one of those guys demonstrably working into that position as Head Coach.

No manager can fall as far behind financially as we have re: Stadium and Youth set-up and expect to also bring the success we want. Let's fix that gap with Moshiri's support, not blow it all on 'kin agents and their free agents

I've seen your posts mate and I think you've had some unfair stick. Do you think there's a 3rd position though. You bring in a manager who can help build on the best aspects of the club but also incorporate some experience of managing at the top level?

De Boer/Emery& Monchi/Koeman I think would all look to work with not against the structure Everton has built up. How does one of them in charge, with Unsworth/Fergusan involved as Assistant and in the coaching work? I think it's a nice hybrid fit.
 

This could well be the real deal and the pre-empt to Koeman signing. That's a very real and possibly likely scenario.

However it could just be meeting with Koeman just as we met with Emery over the last couple of days. There seems to be some inconsistencies, from meetings Koeman's agent to meeting Koeman. That makes me slightly doubtful it's the real thing yet. Alongside that it seems obvious that we are being quite detailed and a meeting is not a shoe-in for being given the job. There may be discussions/negotiations to continue.

I think the odds and the belief by some in the outside world it's on are in part down to it being leaked. This hasn't happened much so to the outside and footballing world it probably looks like the first moves we are making. We obviously know it's a little more complex than that.

I am unsure of exactly what Emery/Monchi and the club may be negotiating on that though I have no doubt to doubt the mole/Esk with their information to say there were discussions. Until you know what they are it's difficult to know exactly how likely they are to come true.

I do refer back to the original statement, it could be a nailed on Koeman getting the job but I'm not sure yet. This looks like Koeman has leaked this maybe to further strengthen his hand from Southampton, or maybe to try and re-claim his spot as Everton's choice. I think Everton are meeting him to put pressure onto Emery.

Lets wait and see, no doubt more information will come out tonight.
That's a lot of words to say nowt.
 
At the moment yes we are, from what i have been told i don't believe that will be the case for long. Moshiri wants us to be challengers, he thinks this is possible in a time frame. His ambition is to be the best.

Mentality of Evertonians needs to change, and like @The Esk says, with this appointment whoever it is and transfer plans and stadium plans I am sure a lot of us will be reevaluating their feelings on where we are as a club and where we are going.

It's just been realistic.

We all want to be the best, and Moshiri wants to get us there.

But, this 'we're Everton and we're the best' just isn't true at the moment.

As I've said to that dope Sotton fan on twitter, currently, we aren't actually 'better' than them. The last two seasons have seen to that. We're a bigger club and a still a huge club - but it's going to take time and there'll be a few hits on the way.

It's why, it seems to me, Moshiri is so set on a DoF. Get them in to oversee the rebuild, and suddenly if manager's come and go, it's not so much of an issue.

Plus, it's not like we finished 17th, either. We've got a very, very good base to build from. But people need to be realistic. For me, that also includes not scoffing at the potential arrival of a proven manager like Koeman...
 

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