Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[ijjysmith]

What does this mean

Means you can't bet on Koeman going to Everton because they think it's a dead cert.

 

[deipnosophist]

But you must admit, the pickled onion analogy was one of GOT's more left field contributions lol

 

[Norwegian Cow]

What does this mean

man kan ikke vedde på Everton-manager lenger.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

One, it'd be amazing and ) A) yes it would fly by if that 'Caretaker' were an Everton character we trust and love who grew with the club in a new role like managing it successfully - only with some financial support.

Who's head patted and patronized Everton anyway? I think we're a stand out club that the PLCs who've sold out envy. We're a proper club with ex-players studded into the development of U21s. I don't think we were patronized in the league or in Europe. We just got beat more as we lost the values that had us knocking on the 5 or 6 consistently.

Let's call on that 15 years of experience that's had us punching above our financial might and give them a level Stadium and Youth infrastructure to play on.

A) No mate, it seriously wouldn't because it'd create an abject sense of it being unstable & 'interim'. Which is not what's required at this point, ROBERTO caused enough fracture within already, that needs mending and it can't be mended 'on the drip'.

B) Seriously? Pundits, media, all that jazz....maybe rightly at times, but if you want example mate have a look at the names those 'in the know' think are befitting to our club...PEARSON, HUGHES, BRUCE, DYCHE, HOWE etc...is that not head-patting? That's a case - very much - of 'know your place, stay there'.

That said, to a point, I get your point...if that makes sense.

I just quite enjoy this period of aiming higher...

 

[GlosBlue]

Don't get me wrong i wouldn't be upset. Certainly not the way I would that fraud Moyes walked in. Just hate the thought of the club being used as a stepping stone when I feel it should be a destination. Partly the reason I'm so irritated with lukaku.

The thought of monchi/Emery coming to Everton to build something was amazing. Though if Emery turned the offer down koemen is certainly a solid option. Rather him than de boer etc.

Emery has had 5 clubs in 12 years. Not exactly the record of a stayer.

 

[Jags..class]

Means you can't bet on Koeman going to Everton because they think it's a dead cert.

Hmm can they be wrong and open it up again?

 

[Tchnique]

Hmm can they be wrong and open it up again?

For sure

 

[catcherintherye]

That's a lot of words to say nowt.

I suppose to summarise it would be, there is still a long way to go!

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

It's just been realistic.

We all want to be the best, and Moshiri wants to get us there.

But, this 'we're Everton and we're the best' just isn't true at the moment.

As I've said to that dope Sotton fan on twitter, currently, we aren't actually 'better' than them. The last two seasons have seen to that. We're a bigger club and a still a huge club - but it's going to take time and there'll be a few hits on the way.

It's why, it seems to me, Moshiri is so set on a DoF. Get them in to oversee the rebuild, and suddenly if manager's come and go, it's not so much of an issue.

Plus, it's not like we finished 17th, either. We've got a very, very good base to build from. But people need to be realistic. For me, that also includes not scoffing at the potential arrival of a proven manager like Koeman...

Yep defo - we aren't, we can only be classed as the season thats just gone. We all said it the table doesnt lie. We where woeful.

Ability wise we should be further then we where but that comes down to other circumstances. Southampton have out performed us and we could we about to get their manager who has over seen that. to me thats good - if Moyes could take us from 17th to 4th (over time), i wouldn't mine seeing what Koeman could do with a better squad and finishing 11th.

Overall we are a bigger club, but we are slipping at the moment and we need to make the right appointments both Dof and management to ensure we push on and match Moshiri's ambition.

 

[BlueToff]

STILL nothing from Joyce/Hunter/King, etc. McNulty is happily tweeting away about a documentary he watched last night.

Yeh, when it leaks to the media they'll be the ones.

Law is decent as well.

 

[smileychap]

I've seen your posts mate and I think you've had some unfair stick. Do you think there's a 3rd position though. You bring in a manager who can help build on the best aspects of the club but also incorporate some experience of managing at the top level?

De Boer/Emery& Monchi/Koeman I think would all look to work with not against the structure Everton has built up. How does one of them in charge, with Unsworth/Fergusan involved as Assistant and in the coaching work? I think it's a nice hybrid fit.

YES - Praise be! (*watery eyed with relief)

Just staggered not to have seen more of this thinking, especially on this forum. It's not even original thinking really - it's just looking around and saying 'What works?' Oh yeah - half the guys we have kicking tyres (metaphorically!) out back. To me it just demeans so many great and proven guys to not even consider how we behave like Everton and be led by one of our own again.

Esk's article brilliantly nails the financial gap that is our hurdle - give good guys of our own that level playing field and I believe they will succeed again.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

the reason I don't want Koeman is not because I don't think hes a good manager, it because I will always know he will be off when a better opportunity comes along..be that Arsenal or Barca or whoever, if he comes to us he has shown no loyalty to Southampton and would do the same to us when the time comes.
Emery on the other hand has been courted by various clubs over the past few years and hasn't left because he wanted to finish what he started or the opportunity hasn't been right for him, he would I hope do the same if he were Everton manager.
I would obviously support Koeman is he were our manager but I wouldn't never quite trust him I don't think...and after fully trusting Moyes (until near the end) and Bobby that they both had the clubs best interests at heart and 'got' the club I think that would be a hard situation to be in.

Mate, sadly that is modern footy, player or manager, either will kiss any badge so long as the money's good. The days of CARRAGHER/GIGGS et al are long gone...

Which is a shame TBH.

 

[Zaschrona]

Really happy if we get either of Koeman or Emery. Both of them are really good managers and would be a massive statement of Moshiri's ambitions. And if Monchi is joining our new manager too, wow... Good times are coming.

 

[ijjysmith]

Hmm can they be wrong and open it up again?

Yeah. I think it can sometimes happen when they have had a lot of money on one contender too. So pull it for a while to see if it actually is happening.

Only one bookie done it so a way to go yet I'd say.

 

[MichaelEFC96]

STILL nothing from Joyce/Hunter/King, etc. McNulty is happily tweeting away about a documentary he watched last night.

I'm refusing to believe anything until it's come from them