Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[BirkenheadBlue]

I'm not saying it's rubbish, I'm saying it's not good enough at the moment, to match your ambition of getting top 6.

We've lost no one of real consequence since we finished 5th 2 years ago. Unfortunately since then we've been badly mismanaged. I don't think you'd find many pundits who wouldn't agree that our squad finished a good 4-5 places behind where it should have given the quality in it.

Guess what... That's why Martinez got sacked!! If he'd been finishing where the quality of our squad dictated, he wouldn't have lost his job.

 

[mill]

I'm not saying it's rubbish, I'm saying it's not good enough at the moment, to match your ambition of getting top 6.

This squad finished 5th a couple of years ago.

 

[FriendlySaint]

Lol.

Lukaku
Barkley
Stones.

All valued at > 50 mil all < 24 years of age.

Now tell me you wouldn't exchange your whole squad for just those three players.

Add to that we have Jagielka, Baines, Coleman, Barry, McCarthy, Lennon, Deulafeu and a shedload of talented youngsters.

The combined XI, would be Forster, Coleman, Stones (close with Fonte), Van Dijk, Bertrand (closeish with Baines) Wanyama, Mccarthy, Mane, Barkley, Tadic, Lukaku.
I count that as 6 Saints players and 5 Everton, although you could argue it could be 5-6. If were talking about a squad, I don't really know enough about your squad depth, but saints have Long, J-rod, Steven Davis, Clasie, Ward-Prowse, Charlie Austin and Pelle, which I would assume is atleast as strong if not better than Evertons squads depth.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

One result doesn't define a season. We beat Arsenal, City, United, Chelsea, Spurs and the scousers, it doesn't mean we have a better squad than them.

One result doesn't define a season, you're right. But league placing alone doesn't automatically define the quality of a squad. If it DOES, then that means your squad is better than Chelsea. Which it quite plainly is not.

 

[orly]

Stones (close with Fonte)

Get in the bin you biff

 

[FriendlySaint]

Same squad finished 5th on a higher points total than your club has ever achieved

Yes your squad two years ago was better than ours, I think it's easy to say with a good manager you will go back to being that side, whether it's true or not is a different argument.

 

[orly]

Wanyama better than Barry.

Tadic better than Belgian Kev.

Unreal levels of jarg rubbish from Saints fans

 

[KoemansHoliday]

If Stones wasn't English he wouldn't be half as highly rated.

 

[PeterMeter]

But we beat you 0-3 with a side featuring Arouna Kone?

We were also beat 3-0 by a side featuring Arouna Kone. Managed by Bobby. In a cup semi-final at that.

 

[Coffee and TV]

I agree, you have a lot of potential in your squad, but behind Lukaku (if he stays) you haven't got many options, your well stocked in midfield, and your defence should be much better than it performs. However I still think if you want to be up there next season for Europe/ Champions league you need to strengthen, because you can't rely on Koeman to fix everything in one season.

I think we'll sell Lukaku, wouldn't be surprised if we sold all our striker options and started again. Having a striker in front of Mirallas/Barkley/Deulofeu is a good attack though IMO. Midfield is alright, back four is fine if we add in some back ups, either Stones or Funes Mori can start next to Jags and Baines and Coleman are both top fullbacks. Then we need a new starting GK.

So I guess striker and goalkeeper are a must plus top replacements for any sales.

 

[FriendlySaint]

One result doesn't define a season, you're right. But league placing alone doesn't automatically define the quality of a squad. If it DOES, then that means your squad is better than Chelsea. Which it quite plainly is not.

I agree it's not perfect, but it's a better indicator than most. Over the course of 38 games last season, our squad managed to get the sixth highest point total, while we don't have the sixth best squad, we can't be a million miles away.

 

[Toast]

Wanyama better than Barry.

Tadic better than Belgian Kev.

Unreal levels of jarg rubbish from Saints fans

He's even got Mccarthy in the team FFS

 

[Blue Cheese]

I feel a mars bar bet forthcoming, Saints fans are the new Pardew.

 

[Bud McBlokeski]

We were also beat 3-0 by a side featuring Arouna Kone. Managed by Bobby. In a cup semi-final at that.

That's a truth I am uncomfortable with.

 

[Blue Cheese]

The combined XI, would be Forster, Coleman, Stones (close with Fonte), Van Dijk, Bertrand (closeish with Baines) Wanyama, Mccarthy, Mane, Barkley, Tadic, Lukaku.
I count that as 6 Saints players and 5 Everton, although you could argue it could be 5-6. If were talking about a squad, I don't really know enough about your squad depth, but saints have Long, J-rod, Steven Davis, Clasie, Ward-Prowse, Charlie Austin and Pelle, which I would assume is atleast as strong if not better than Evertons squads depth.

'kin hell, we may as well give up lads.