Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[Sentinel]

Mourinho wouldn't be interested would he?

Well I could be wrong on this but he has expressed an interest, allegedly. I mean, why wouldn't he, Man U are feckin' him about, he wants to stay in the premiership, we have a decent squad and offer decent wages. It's not beyond the realm of possibility.

Will he come, it's a long shot, but if you asked me whether Klopp would join the lot across the park I would have laughed. They got him though.

 

[Jimmy1]

Mate, i honestly have no idea why you are nagative constantly about Pelligrini, look at his career, Managed Real Madrid (and achieved at the time their greatest ever points total in la liga and their record ever goals scored total) was only replaced as they wanted Mourinho otherwise unlike most madrid managers he wouldn't have been sacked - only lost the title due to barca having possibly their best ever team that season under Guardiola

Qualified for and then reached the semi finals of the CL with Villareal a small spanish team who came out of nowhere and entirely with a team he built from the ground

Qualified and reached the QF with Malaga - another small spanish team who although often people go on about how much money he spent like he manged a PSG type buying of success - actually look at the figures of what they actually spent whilst he managed them and you will be surprised just how little it was - it made waves for two reasons only, ONE - Malaga are such a small team that when they spent money comparable to the mid tier spanish teams like valencia, sevilla etc then it was remarked on like some mega cash spend - which is honestly wasn't, and TWO - it made headlines due to Malaga being banned for FPP breahces - which everyone without bothering to find out assumed it was because they had spent a gazzilion pounds on players - in actuality they breached FPP not on transfre spending or for the wages being in breach of what was allowed, but for not being able to pay the clubs outstanding debts and the players wages.

Managed man city to a semi final and one they have a great chance in, won a league and two cups in 3 seasons, and had this season in the league pulled from under him by the appointing of Pep when they where sat 3 points behind leicester - the announcement completely derailed their season

Pelligrini a man who ahs reahced 1 SF, 1 QF and another SF - possibly final as they are still in it, with 3 completely different teams in his career, and your not keen on him because he hasn't won every signle thing with man city...

I prefer Mourinho as i have stated , but Pelligrini would be a massive statement to appoint him as manager and would be so far above the level of De Boer, Cocu etc

Pelligrini would be a massive upgrade on what we have. He's already done an interview which could be read as a come and get me plea. Plus you don't just win the premier league by default. Some on here think its as easy as 123 and completely ignore all the other teams who have an equal chance of winning it also.

 

[WarringtonBlue]

Would move heaven and earth for Mancini

 

[Sentinel]

Bought Joaquim when he was 30 for 2.5m for Malaga
Bought Toulalan for 7m when he was 27 for Malaga
Bought Monreal when he was 25 for 4m for Malaga


Brought an 18yo Cazorla up from the academy into the Villareal team
Bought a 21 yo camacho for Malaga from Althletico for 1m
Bought a 19yo Isco from valancia for 2.5m
Signed Rodriguez for Villareal from river for a nominal fee, was a starter at cb for that villareal CL team that knocked us out at the age of 20

Bought Riquelme from Barca having loaned him for two seasons for 6m at Villareal
Bought Forlan from United for 2m - a player who have been labelled a huge bust for his time at United, 1st seaosn at Villareal he won the spanish top scorer and european golden boot
Bought Senna for 400k - as someone who still played in Brazil at 26 - that was an amazing purchase

Honestly mate thats just going through a couple of lists of the malaga and vilalreal teams he put togetehr, anyone with any doubt he can't operate and find great talent without having real madrid like money doesnt understand his history and some of the players he has turned into stars from busts at other teams

On a comparative note though, everyone is clamouring for Mourinho - and Pelligrini in the last 3 seasons in the prem has outperformed Mourinho mate

Gotta say mate that was an impressive post.

 

[brieverton]

Another good post! I agree with most of what you are saying, particularly re the long term. We have to get over the idea that longevity at all costs.

I do thin though, that with certain managers they put a system in place whereby they leave us in a better situation than before and there is a continuum. We should have a way we want to win and we should try where possible to find managers who fit that.

It's my view, but I think Emery, De Boer etc would give us a structure that can be built upon. Potation is similar and will leave Spurs in a much stronger place.

I don't really get that feeling from some of the other, older names.

I think this is the key really. Martinez is / will be leaving us, as most will concede, in a much weaker position than he found us. I would certainly hope that a new manager would see us as a club that could match his ambitions and in that sense, yes, make a home with us and not be looking at his next club before he has even got his hands dirty. All things equal, the longer the right manager is in the job, the better for all of us.

It is a unique opportunity for the next Everton manager, perhaps more so than anyone who will have gone before. Some of our bigger "stars" are likely to be off, there is plenty of deadwood that needs clearing out. With new investment, it's an opportunity for someone to come in and start from a blank page, to really mould a squad and make it better than the sum of its parts.

I'm a bit down now as most of us will be, but let's not be too despondent either, there is much that can excite us in the coming months. Football is very fickle and with a good appointment, the best we can make, and a good start to next season, Martinez will pass quietly into history.

Just one thing about a new manager - I don't want to hear anything about "philosophy" ever ever again. The only philosophy worth having is Everton winning games, winning this and the next game, and winning cups. You do what it takes before and during the game, to win THAT game. Anything else belongs in the bin.

 

[bluestevon]

The more time goes on, the more I'm warming to the idea of Pellegrini.

Seriously mate, i had absolutely no idea until i started reading up on him the past few days just how good he has been in finding young players who either have been at the academy or have not been given the chance at some bigger teams
Finding players who have just gone under the radar until their mid 20's
Finding players who are 'veterans' but have 1/2 really good seasons left in them and he reivigorates
Finding players in their early mid twenties from the lower division or from the 'struggling' teams and making them into very solid squad players - something Vilalreals team was noted for tbh
and maybe the most impressive is some of the busts of players he has turned into stars

Guy who can take a 26yo Senna and turn him into a Brazillian international from nowhere, can take Forlan and recover his career that was in tatters after united and turn him into one of the best strikers in the world for a time and one who can spot the likes of an Isco rotting away at Valencia, and at the same point manage teams full of Galactico types in Madrid and City with massive ego's and without ever having any dissent within the camps, its a rare manager who can do all that

 

[moylee]

Benitez into 10-1

 

[ToffeeDan]

Will he come, it's a long shot, but if you asked me whether Klopp would join the lot across the park I would have laughed. They got him though.

Satan invaded his brain and, let it be known, his Missus' and the dog's rear ends. So Jurgen "Getyoureffingheadkickedin" Klopp was forced, by the powers of darkness, to take the job. It's all very well saying he's a mad nutter dancing around the edge of the pitch, hugging (euphemism) his players, sounding a bit mental - that's a diversion whilst Satan Henry sits in the background controlling everything. I mean look at how false apostles like Dalglish have been turned into wobbling wrecks and how Brentan - infected with the BS needle - has been discarded and, unable to find another job.

Satan also told Sakho to stop dancing and take his St Vitus Pills..

 

[Sentinel]

And that's the thing, yes things are [Poor language removed] at the moment. Personally I'm sick of talking about Kenwright, Moyes and Martinez, Sick of it. Had it for years now. I want to talk about the future of the club.

Not in some, Championship Manager way or what ever it's called now. Something that us Blues can rally around.

 

[Sentinel]

Satan invaded his brain and, let it be known, his Missus' and the dog's rear ends. So Jurgen "Getyoureffingheadkickedin" Klopp was forced, by the powers of darkness, to take the job. It's all very well saying he's a mad nutter dancing around the edge of the pitch, hugging (euphemism) his players, sounding a bit mental - that's a diversion whilst Satan Henry sits in the background controlling everything. I mean look at how false apostles like Dalglish have been turned into wobbling wrecks and how Brentan - infected with the BS needle - has been discarded and, unable to find another job.

Satan also told Sakho to stop dancing and take his St Vitus Pills..

ToffeeDan you're the first man to make me smile all night, after a case of Merlot, you'd think it'd happen earlier. Thank you sir.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Benitez into 10-1

Next manager market odds mean nothing until someone is at substantial odds-on

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Benitez into 10-1

Not in a million years will they appoint him.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Get rid of Roberto before he fulfills his promise to get us Champions (hip) League football.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Id say Laurent Blanc, won the league with PSG a few time, (alright its like Celtic in Scotland)but hes still a winner, hes young hungry and PSG want rid aparently and want Mourinho.

Id love Mourinho but im not sure hes that good, guanteed hes won everywhere hes gone, but look at the teams hes taken over, Chelsea already spent a fortune twice. RM have a Ronaldo and can buy anyone. Inter were already the best team in Italy.
He walks in to already built teams and wins league, we are not a already built team.

Pelligrini would be a good choice and probably what our players need after the over the top of, We were Phenomenal, in our jammy 1-0 win and 0-0 draw.

Whoever it is it needs to be a statement, like signing Lukaku, lets just hope that our 2nd half performance which was nothing to do with Martinez(played for the shirt) pursades Bill and Moshiri to keep him another season

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Id say Laurent Blanc, won the league with PSG a few time, (alright its like Celtic in Scotland)but hes still a winner, hes young hungry and PSG want rid aparently and want Mourinho.

Id love Mourinho but im not sure hes that good, guanteed hes won everywhere hes gone, but look at the teams hes taken over, Chelsea already spent a fortune twice. RM have a Ronaldo and can buy anyone. Inter were already the best team in Italy.
He walks in to already built teams and wins league, we are not a already built team.

Pelligrini would be a good choice and probably what our players need after the over the top of, We were Phenomenal, in our jammy 1-0 win and 0-0 draw.

Whoever it is it needs to be a statement, like signing Lukaku, lets just hope that our 2nd half performance which was nothing to do with Martinez(played for the shirt) pursades Bill and Moshiri to keep him another season

Very odd sentence this lol