Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

[Gwladys St. Glory]

I can't help myself. Just looked it up and we paid 700k for him, then just over a year later we sold him for 25k.

Superb business that.

Looking through the list from that season it's amazing the names you forget but, as soon as you see them, you get an image. David Poppleton being one...I'm about to Google him but, if I remember correctly, he was a youth player and had a terrible case of acne.

 

[USABlue]

@Rook and @Yid4life i hope those jurgen votes are windups haha

 

[Cork Evertonian]

I was dismissive of Manuel Pellegrini on the Martinez thread but from looking more closely at his CV (well reading Wikipedia to be more exact!) he's done a good job at all the clubs he's been at in Europe except for perhaps Real Madrid but the Real Madrid job is a circus anyway.Malaga were a club with financial troubles and he did well there and i suppose you shouldn't easily dismiss a man with a premiership title on his record.He has extensive managerial experience in La Liga and he did what he had to do with Man City.Im staring to come around to him so i was most definitely in the wrong to be dismissing him.I think i was getting really carried away with the next manager has to be a young up and coming European coach thing.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

On initial evidence, I may be wrong about Mr. Poppleton (the acne bit anyhow) or there's just no pics of him floating around from back then...but he is on Twitter, lives in Doncaster, owns a property company, supports Wednesday and is mates with Cadamarteri, it would seem. Small world. Random Everton for the day...goodnight.

 

[Dylan]

I was dismissive of Manuel Pellegrini on the Martinez thread but from looking more closely at his CV (well reading Wikipedia to be more exact!) he's done a good job at all the clubs he's been at in Europe except for perhaps Real Madrid but the Real Madrid job is a circus anyway.Malaga were a club with financial troubles and he did well there and i suppose you shouldn't easily dismiss a man with a premiership title on his record.He has extensive managerial experience in La Liga and he did what he had to do with Man City.Im staring to come around to him so i was most definitely in the wrong to be dismissing him.I think i was getting really carried away with the next manager has to be a young up and coming European coach thing.

Didn't he have a 75% win record there. Outstanding for pretty much any club except for them. Only lost 7 games from 48 managed.

Pellegrini later reflected on his frustration at not being able to build a team at Real Madrid due to the club's controversial Galácticos policy:

"I didn't have a voice or a vote at Madrid. They sign the best players, but not the best players needed in a certain position. It's no good having an orchestra with the 10 best guitarists if I don't have a pianist. Real Madrid have the best guitarists, but if I ask them to play the piano they won't be able to do it so well. He [Pérez] sold players that I considered important. We didn't win the Champions League because we didn't have a squad properly structured to be able to win it."

 

[Shu Ren Dennis Ng]

Didn't he have a 75% win record there. Outstanding for pretty much any club except for them. Only lost 7 games from 48 managed.

Pellegrini will be a decent manager for us if we choose to install him. The problem is that he's at best a short term solution at a fairly high price. Would love to see us go for younger talent like Emery and Tuchel first before Pellegrini. Heard Swansea (yes, freaking Swansea) is targeting Emery. WTH?!?!?!?!

 

[smileychap]

Because we want the best? And to win something?

Sure. But how do we know they're not the best? If they're not banging on the door, why are they working with our youth squad?

 

[Dylan]

Pellegrini will be a decent manager for us if we choose to install him. The problem is that he's at best a short term solution at a fairly high price. Would love to see us go for younger talent like Emery and Tuchel first before Pellegrini. Heard Swansea (yes, freaking Swansea) is targeting Emery. WTH?!?!?!?!

I can understand going for young talent when we are talking about players, but for managers, experience matters. I wouldn't be worried about what Swansea are doing, Everton should be the only concern here.

 

[Shu Ren Dennis Ng]

I can understand going for young talent when we are talking about players, but for managers, experience matters. I wouldn't be worried about what Swansea are doing, Everton should be the only concern here.

I'm not worried about Swansea. Emery has a good track record so far...So I'm worried we're missing the forest for that one tree. Simeone can't have that much experience when he started so quality really isn't about age (or experience) is it?

 

[Dylan]

I'm not worried about Swansea. Emery has a good track record so far...So I'm worried we're missing the forest for that one tree. Simeone can't have that much experience when he started so quality really isn't about age (or experience) is it?

I would hope that Moshiri and his team are casting a wide net. I have focused on Pellegrini, as that is the candidate that I would prefer (and be somewhat realistic about getting).

 

[Shu Ren Dennis Ng]

I would hope that Moshiri and his team are casting a wide net. I have focused on Pellegrini, as that is the candidate that I would prefer (and be somewhat realistic about getting).

True. I hope they would try to be more ambitious and as you say, cast a wider net. Pellegrini is there to be had IMO, so I wouldn't want Moshiri to pen him as our first and only choice. I was reading up the salaries of our players and managers in general and think that we should pay well for a great coach to take us upwards, preferably for a long time, than players who despite their talent, lose their fight when there is nothing to play for. Martinez is to blame for that but players' lack of effort/interest should not be condoned.

 

[Sentinel]

There's a possibility that Pellegrini might also be a European Cup winning manager by the summer. Place that alongside his previous success as a manager, I fail to see how anyone could argue that, Howe, Dyche, Moyes etc even register. Unless of course Bill Kenwright still has a say.

I see the point about Benitez, but I can't get over his past or his comments and I think many Evertonians would have a problem too. At one stage, Shankly allegedly was talked about to manage Everton and was ruled out because of his previous connections. Benitez is no Shankly and for the same reasons he wasn't hired, I can't see it happening.

Mourinho is my choice, probably going to United but I'd do everything to try and persuade him to come here. He'd transform us over night. However it's unlikely.

That leaves De Boer and Koeman, if De Boer brings his staff over, I'd definately be on board with that and think he edges Koeman out. De Boer, with a backroom team of Staam and Berkamp is impressive.

Honorable mentions to Unai Emery and Favre who should be on any shortlist as well. If the the right decision is made and Martinez is sacked, I think Evertonians have got a lot to look forward to this summer. Assuming of course the board are actually serious about winning again.

 

[kithnou]

Sure. But how do we know they're not the best? If they're not banging on the door, why are they working with our youth squad?

No certainties in life, love and football are there?

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Didn't he have a 75% win record there. Outstanding for pretty much any club except for them. Only lost 7 games from 48 managed.

Despite having to work with a president who choses the signings in the main He got their record number of points (at the time) in la Liga. and lost out to Guardiola's Barça. One of the best teams of all time.

 

[Jags..class]

Warming to pellegrini, we have a chance to get him but we have to be quick as other clubs will also want him.