See my earlier post that blows holes in that assertion when it discusses FDB's European record in 'competing for the biggets trophies' mate
Would Pep at Bayern then be judged on his success in Europe rather than in a very one team dominated league then mate, as looking at your post you seem to be suggesting that - in which case Guardiola has failed at Bayern really
Ferguson, Mourinho - none of them have won the league every single season - it is impossible and right now could be argued to eb the hardest it has ever been for one team to dominate such as happens in many continental leagues.
Pelligrini's record in the league was 1 win in 2 seasons at the time the board cut his legs from udner him with announcing Guardiola they where sat in the midst of a 7 game unbeaten run and just 3 off Leicester with games to come against both them and SPurs - which after the announcement Cities form absolutely nose dived
As for you not thinking he can organise a defence etc and worrying that he is effectively a Martinez mark 2, check my post the other day which showed that he has had a top 4 defence in i think it was 8 out of 12 seasons in charge of Malaga, Villareal, Madrid and City, that cobined with being amomnst the top scoring teams every season as well - in fact his three years at city and one in madrid they finished top goalscorers and top 4 defensively every season
Least deserving champions? - Yes because deserving to win a trophy really matters at the end of the day, many a team will prefer to play like champions and deserve to win a title only to lose out rather than undeservingly winning one...
In short, i agree with a lot of the stuff you say mate, on this though youi are so wrong it's painful
Fair enough matey, as you say football is about opinions and I only give my opinion as honestly as possible! I wouldn't claim to be right on Pellegrini I just don't think he's right for us. I understand a lot of people think he is and there is a lot of evidence to back that up too to be fair! I try to explain my position as best as possible and I appreciate the responses I get.
From what you've raised. Ajax are royalty in Holland but in now an increasingly poor league. I don't think it would be realistic to judge De Boer on European performance. City I would say, with the money they've spent are a top team in Europe. De Boers record in Europe is quite ordinary though minus some decent results.
As for Pep, I think in many ways people will view his tenure at Bayern unsuccessful if he doesn't win the European cup this season. He has won the league 3 times, but it is fair to say he is much further ahead of his competition than Pellegrini is with City. My point is though that league cups aren't a good reference point for a manager of City. It is the league and European cup as to how they should be judged.
I do agree there was something in the appointment of Pep undermining them. I think the nose dive had set in though, after a blistering start it had been a slow decline. I think Pep is a factor in it but I can't hand on heart say it caused their performance this season. I think they are over reliant on certain key players and the loss of Kompany has been bigger. Of course he's been unlucky with that, but it does beg the question, why hasn't he got better covering defenders in with the money to spend? Or more importantly for us, what is he going to do with a defence with no Kompany in?
It is reassuring to see solid defensively in Spain. It's hard to knock his work in Spain particularly at Villareal. My criticism of him is based more in England, where I do think they've looked a bit of a soft touch.
As for least deserving champions. Well all champions have done brilliantly to win. However they didn't blitz the league and I would say Liverpool lost it as much as they won it.
There is a lot of merit in Pelligrini. Fantastic job at Villareal, and a good job at Malaga. I think he has done ok at City and Madrid, not a failure but also not a roaring success. I see a 62 year old man though who for the last few years of his life has been at clubs who are the best backed in the league, and indeed the world and it is poles apart from where we are even under Moshiri. I don't see it as being the longer term appointment I'd want and I don't think he's going to change the culture of the club around in such a short space of time. If I could summarise my feelings on Pellegrini it wouldn't be that he's a bad manager as he's not just that he's not the right type of manager for what we need currently.
I understand lots of Evertonian's want different things too. Some aren't as keen for a longer term appointment. Some want an appointment we can get in quickly, one that knows the area, or has performed in the premier league. He fits a lot of those things perfectly. He just doesn't fit what I would like for our new manager.
