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Next manager discussion (poll reset 21/05/2016)

Who would you want?

  • Frank de Boer

    Votes: 302 17.0%

  • David Moyes

    Votes: 56 3.2%

  • Manuel Pellegrini

    Votes: 152 8.6%

  • Ronald Koeman

    Votes: 286 16.1%

  • Other (please state below)

    Votes: 109 6.1%

  • Unai Emery

    Votes: 870 49.0%
  • Total voters
    1,775
  • Poll closed .
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eternal_defiance said:
Frank De Boer has earned Ajax profits of £60m in transfers since being appointed, brought many players through his youth set-up and won title after title. His first job with money, with Moshiri, a big league, with us, it is just mouthwatering to me.

-60m!
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I just worry about him, a lot.

  • The Dutch league is a massive gamble as an indication of managerial talent. He's been rubbish in Europe (he scraped past Celtic 4-3 on aggregate - drew 2-2 at home - it's not just when up against wildly more wealthy opposition).
  • Hard to tell how much of his success is down to his managerial team, and how many of them he'd be able to bring. He's also spent his entire time working under a Director of Football which he wouldn't have here.
  • Lots of complaints in the past year or so from Ajax fans about rubbish football, which lends support to the idea he's just a medium-sized fish in a tiny pond (along with performances in Europe).

Walter Smith was the last time we appointed a 'proven winner' who'd been bossing the hell out of a crap league with one of the biggest clubs in it.

I'm not totally against him, and I'd get right behind him and be excited with his appointment. But I think it's a HUUUUUGE risk.

Sorry about this @MoutsGoat.
 
eternal_defiance said:
Frank De Boer has earned Ajax profits of £60m in transfers since being appointed, brought many players through his youth set-up and won title after title. His first job with money, with Moshiri, a big league, with us, it is just mouthwatering to me.

-60m!

Frank De Boer's biggest transfer while in charge of Ajax is £4.5m......De Boer IN!
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His 4 league titles in 5 seasons isn't too bad considering they hadn't won it six years previously.
 

hetion said:
I just worry about him, a lot.

  • The Dutch league is a massive gamble as an indication of managerial talent. He's been rubbish in Europe (he scraped past Celtic 4-3 on aggregate - drew 2-2 at home - it's not just when up against wildly more wealthy opposition).
  • Hard to tell how much of his success is down to his managerial team, and how many of them he'd be able to bring. He's also spent his entire time working under a Director of Football which he wouldn't have here.
  • Lots of complaints in the past year or so from Ajax fans about rubbish football, which lends support to the idea he's just a medium-sized fish in a tiny pond (along with performances in Europe).

Walter Smith was the last time we appointed a 'proven winner' who'd been bossing the hell out of a crap league with one of the biggest clubs in it.

I'm not totally against him, and I'd get right behind him and be excited with his appointment. But I think it's a HUUUUUGE risk.

Sorry about this @MoutsGoat.
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Rubbish in Europe....his debut was a 0-2 victory at AC Milan in the Champions League, but they were eliminated after that match. Next season were drawn in the same group as Real Madrid, drew Man Utd in the Europa League (and Sir Alex), managed to beat them at Old Trafford (!) but went out on aggregate. The next season, they had Real Madrid again, Man City and Dortmund in their group! Managed to beat Man City convincingly.

The previous two seasons they've drawn Barcelona in the group stages, and even managed to beat them. Saying he's been rubbish in Europe is just harsh and unfair.
 
Hong Kong Phooey said:
I also think it's unfair that some will use a lack of success in Europe as a stick to beat him with.

The financial restraints he's used to dealing with means it's extremely difficult to compete in Europe against clubs that spend what he can only dream of.

The only thing he can do is compete against clubs on a similar footing in his domestic league, and it's 5 titles in 6 years isn't it?

Get him here with Moshiri's millions and he'd make a far better fist of a European adventure.
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Not really. He got knocked out of the CL playoffs by Rapid Wien, scraped past FK Jablonek (??) 1-0 on aggregate in the Europa qualifiers, then came 3rd in the Europa group. 1st and 2nd were Molde and Fenerbahce. That was this season. Last season did better but got knocked out of Europa by Dnipro. Season before he got bummed out of the Europa 6-1 on aggregate by RB Salzburg.

None of those are in a financially different class to Ajax.

Haha sorry it sounds like I have a massive vendetta - I just have large reservations.

Edit: @Hong Kong Phooey - I guess it depends which results you look at.
 

hetion said:
Not really. He got knocked out of the CL playoffs by Rapid Wien, scraped past FK Jablonek (??) 1-0 on aggregate in the Europa qualifiers, then came 3rd in the Europa group. 1st and 2nd were Molde and Fenerbahce. That was this season. Last season did better but got knocked out of Europa by Dnipro. Season before he got bummed out of the Europa 6-1 on aggregate by RB Salzburg.

None of those are in a financially different class to Ajax.

Haha sorry it sounds like I have a massive vendetta - I just have large reservations.

Edit: @Hong Kong Phooey - I guess it depends which results you look at.
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No problem mate we've all got our preferences and reservations ;)
 

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