Nothing has changed.

[Deleted member 28206]

We're going to come out of this window with a better TEAM. Some people need to get a grip.

Selling a record breaking striker and a self confessed blue?

Are you SUREEEEEEE?

 

[Garymc2412]

Going on about players leaving
Stones 50m banked liability wanted to go not missed
Del 12m banked weak and not good enough not missed
Lukaku 90m banked wanted to go probably will miss his goals but I won't miss him
Barkley let's just get some money for him he wants to go so let him go he won't be missed

 

[bluesb1970]

Spot on mate.

But I suspect that's very much part of their plan to continue the Everton model of selling to buy. In that context how convincing were they really prepared to be beyond putting out stories to their lackeys in the media to make it look like top wages and a plan to push on were presented to players and agents which 'they ignored'?

It's all spin; there's no change in that aspect of the club - they spin against their own players when they know they have to move them on. It's been going on for years, the pattern is familiar. How do so many fall for it when it's trundled out again and again?

I’m going against my better judgement in getting dragged in but you have absolutely no comprehension of business do you? The outlay we have made far out ways the income from sales. I understand that selling stars fits your negative agenda but you need to look at the bigger picture.

 

[davek]

I’m going against my better judgement in getting dragged in but you have absolutely no comprehension of business do you? The outlay we have made far out ways the income from sales. I understand that selling stars fits your negative agenda but you need to look at the bigger picture.

Ha Ha Ha.

That's class.

 

[arminisgod]

We have so far sold to buy. Who has got the better deals is up for debate.

Personally I think things have changed because Rooney so his future here, that couldn't happen 2 years ago. But we hardly at the city or Chelsea levels of spending are we?

I mean ffs we are haggling over a few million for a Swansea player

 

[SteveSC]

So if I'm reading this correctly you're saying that we couldn't have kept these players before Moshiri came here either. Nothing has changed.

The best players at Everton still see themselves as better than Everton.

Until Moshiri stops our better players walking out on us then nothing will change.

Nope you are not reading me correctly and honestly you are twisting things.

I said i agreed with davek that Barkley's exit is possibly related to his falling out with Koeman.

As for Lukaku look lets be real for a second the previous administration were crap at handling everything. We lost every player that wanted to leave and had no money to keep them to pay them.

Now we are offering them contracts and in one case the player decided nope his original decision still stood and he was off. As for Barkley again like i said he wants a new challenge because he has the hump with our manager.

Anyway if you don't think Lukaku was using us as a stepping stone knowing his own ego and his agent and well his talent then your are being foolish.

I think someone else said this but i agree that we will see less of this and quite frankly the less disgruntled players we have the better. I wouldnt want them to say yes just for a massive wage increase.

 

[ilikecheese]

He hasn't gotten a sniff for England because Southgate is a tit who selects players like Drinkwater, Wilshire, and other dross ahead of him. That's got nothing to do with what he's doing for us, I think Southgate just doesn't rate him. He was playing better than players in the squad and still didn't get a sniff. I don't see what a move, where he is in all likelihood going to end up with less playing time is going to help that situation.

If he feels like his career has stagnated then that is on his shoulders. The staff at the club have given him every opportunity to improve himself. What's obvious to everyone who watches him is that the areas he needs to improve are in his head.

I can blame him, he's jibbed us off and I'm real sore about it.

I think he looks at players getting selected ahead of him and is frustrated because he thinks he's better than them.

He looks at his CV (or more likely his agent does) and sees a massive hole where Champions League should be.

I do agree that in terms of football his problems are 100% between his ears.

 

[Efcjake]

I think he looks at players getting selected ahead of him and is frustrated because he thinks he's better than them.

He looks at his CV (or more likely his agent does) and sees a massive hole where Champions League should be.

I do agree that in terms of football his problems are 100% between his ears.

I think that's clearly down to Southgate based off of the players he's picking ahead of him who aren't playing in the Champions League.

 

[Nymzee]

Selling a record breaking striker and a self confessed blue?

Are you SUREEEEEEE?

Why does this automatically make him good? He's not gonna be missed whatsoever.

 

[diggerdestroyer]

I will continue to wait until the end of window to make see if we how much we spend over we bring in. I fully understand that doesnt decide if we have a stronger team but wuth barkley gone now as well ita simple we need a number 10 ( 50 million ) and a top center forward 30/40 million to challenge top 6. Cant see it happening.Otherwise its a 7th place finish again.

 

[T LEAFE]

Or relegation

 

[Sapie88]

140 pages.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Going on about players leaving
Stones 50m banked liability wanted to go not missed
Del 12m banked weak and not good enough not missed
Lukaku 90m banked wanted to go probably will miss his goals but I won't miss him
Barkley let's just get some money for him he wants to go so let him go he won't be missed

I'm more disappointed about Ross to be honest. As much as I liked Rom's goals he only ever saw us as a stepping stone from the moment he walked through the door. Ross being a blue and talent, is harder to accept. What a mentor (Rooney) he could learn from.

 

[Kiwi]

140 pages.

I gave it about three, so we've well and truly exceeded expectations.
The thread that keeps on giving, #SAPIEtheSEER

 

[bluerobert]

Regardless of how good you think they are the fact remains that the club wanted to retain them and failed to do that.

Talking about the new prospects is a bit of counting chickens, who knows how they will turn out. We had a better idea of how good those 3 players we wanted to keep were going to be and we couldn't keep them here.

There's a bit of a worry that we're stuck in our spot as the factory line for the top clubs. Players, like Lukaku mentioned in his first interview after signing permanently, will come here looking at us like a shop window for the next move.

I don't think we wanted them to stay. Does Koeman seem that arsed that Ross is leaving? Has Stones cemented a place as one of the top centre backs for club and country? Has Delefeuo gone back to Barca on the back of a storming season in Italy? The answer to all of them is no. Maybe none of them suit our style. Maybe they will go elsewhere and become world beaters but they weren't doing it here so why not cash in on them to help rebuild?