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Obama or McCain?
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Nebbiolo
Valuation: £108 million
Well I personally suspect that men are not actually designed at all. So it seems pointless even addressing such an issue and probably anti-scientific as well.
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
And if they aren't designed to take it up the arse how come come cocks fit up there nice and snug?
fozzy
Player Valuation: £60m
sotnas
Player Valuation: £10m
Do they? Never tried one on me, mate. Don't intend to do it anyway.
I guess some things are meant to be an eternal mistery to me.
TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
I don't know what to make of that comment other than it sounded like Death was speaking from experience...
Just kidding with ya Death.
sotnas
Player Valuation: £10m
I meant gay adoption.
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
I don't know what to make of that comment other than it sounded like Death was speaking from experience...
Just kidding with ya Death.
No worries, i'm just passing on what my boyfriend told me
Nebbiolo
Valuation: £108 million
TX Tiburon
Player Valuation: £5m
Let the record state that I second Dylan's sentiments.
TX Tiburon
Player Valuation: £5m
Yep, I read it all. Some part I found very difficult and distasteful. Other points were at least thought provoking. But I think that Tx Bill and Dylan represent many points of my rebuttal so I will not rehash. However, I would like to comment about the math of taxes. First off, the US government needs to reduce its spending dramatically. Too much money goes to Washington. There is enormous waste in the federal government and many programs and departments should flatly be shuttered. The only impact felt should those "services" be eliminated, would be to those employed within those departments. Government is not the answer to individual problems. It rarely even understands the issues around those problems.
The US government has too much power to tax and the taxpayers are over-taxed. To free the economy, the burden on taxpayers must be reduced. The top 5% of tax payers contributes something like 40-50% of all tax revenues. Is that fair and who is to be the judge of fair? Of course, when taxes are reduced, the people who pay the most should get the most relief. If payer A remits 10-grand annually and payer B remits 1-million, you can't give payer A a 15-grand reduction in his taxes. Millions of low-income American's do not even pay taxes. So no, the lowest earning Americans have seen little or change in their tax brackets.
The financial problems that low-income wage earners encounter do not result from the possibility that their neighbor isn't taxed heavily enough. That's the politics of envy. More typically, low economic status is correlated to education. That cycle can be difficult to break for many reason but it has been proven over and over that spending more on education doesn’t necessarily improve academic results. So there’s another problem not likely to be fixed by a federal program and tossing more money. So there’s some libertarian blather for you. How about we just agree that Texas succeed from the US and stay to ourselves? We don’t need the rest of the US anyway. Well… maybe a little.
okey dokey
Of all the republican candidates, McCain was the one I looked most favourably on, mainly because he didn't bind himself to the party line, he actually seemed to give individual policies due consideration on their merits rather falling into a traditonally republican standpoint. I found that refreshing approach to politics (which is a damning indictment of the system in itself).
Sadly, he now seems to have fallen in step with the wider Republican machine to ensure his candidacy.
Which leaves Obama. The inexperience jibe doesn't really sit too well, it's not like the bloke is expected to run the country by himself. The President is there to provide leadership and direction and has the largest support network in the world to assist him. There is nothing I have seen of Obama to date that tells me he won't be at least an adequate President.
For me, Obama, purely for the message it sends out to the rest of the world. For what it's worth, I also believe the right has lost control of your economy (we're certainly feeling the effects of your *ahem* slightly cavalier fiscal policies over here), maybe the lefties need a turn to put things back on an even keel again.
I'm not going to go too far into the religion debate, what I will say is that the lack of separation between church and state over in your neck of the woods concerns me, as does the ever creeping "Creationism / Intelligent Design" encroachment on science classes.. that's the one thing that makes me angry, interfering with the teaching of science, pushing religious dogma as scientific fact rather than an issue of faith.
Incidentally while the Christian Church has consistently seen science as a threat (from the persecution of Copernicus onwards) the Muslim world was a hotbed of scientific progress and free thinking.
Oh, and from since before the days of the Crusades, Christianity has been the cause of choice for many a greedy murdering swine, but as you say with the Muslims Tx, it's just a small minority giving everyone else a bad name.
Believe it or not, I was actually brought up a Jehovah's Witness, but am by nature a scientist, personally, I found the two incompatible (I know others who can reconcile the 2 far better than me), but my studies did give quite a decent grasp of comparitive religion, a healthy level of scepticism, and a damn good line in arguments when getting preached to.
Oh, while I'm here, someone mentioned homosexuality
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=bisexual-species
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
turns out it's about as natural as it gets...
... if only blokes had tits
Of all the republican candidates, McCain was the one I looked most favourably on, mainly because he didn't bind himself to the party line, he actually seemed to give individual policies due consideration on their merits rather falling into a traditonally republican standpoint. I found that refreshing approach to politics (which is a damning indictment of the system in itself).
Sadly, he now seems to have fallen in step with the wider Republican machine to ensure his candidacy.
Which leaves Obama. The inexperience jibe doesn't really sit too well, it's not like the bloke is expected to run the country by himself. The President is there to provide leadership and direction and has the largest support network in the world to assist him. There is nothing I have seen of Obama to date that tells me he won't be at least an adequate President.
For me, Obama, purely for the message it sends out to the rest of the world. For what it's worth, I also believe the right has lost control of your economy (we're certainly feeling the effects of your *ahem* slightly cavalier fiscal policies over here), maybe the lefties need a turn to put things back on an even keel again.
I'm not going to go too far into the religion debate, what I will say is that the lack of separation between church and state over in your neck of the woods concerns me, as does the ever creeping "Creationism / Intelligent Design" encroachment on science classes.. that's the one thing that makes me angry, interfering with the teaching of science, pushing religious dogma as scientific fact rather than an issue of faith.
Incidentally while the Christian Church has consistently seen science as a threat (from the persecution of Copernicus onwards) the Muslim world was a hotbed of scientific progress and free thinking.
Oh, and from since before the days of the Crusades, Christianity has been the cause of choice for many a greedy murdering swine, but as you say with the Muslims Tx, it's just a small minority giving everyone else a bad name.
Believe it or not, I was actually brought up a Jehovah's Witness, but am by nature a scientist, personally, I found the two incompatible (I know others who can reconcile the 2 far better than me), but my studies did give quite a decent grasp of comparitive religion, a healthy level of scepticism, and a damn good line in arguments when getting preached to.
Oh, while I'm here, someone mentioned homosexuality
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=bisexual-species
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
turns out it's about as natural as it gets...
... if only blokes had tits
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