Install the app
How to install the app on iOS

Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.

Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.

Old cars

Status
Not open for further replies.
Bluerover said:
This is the 1972 Peugeot - Pinifarina designed. I love her as does Mrs BR - this was a family run last summer along the River Barrow (second longest river in Ireland) through Cos Kilkenny and Carlow and this was at the beautiful ancient monastic village of St Mullin's. Great fun to drive and is the only one without power steering - still, it takes me back to when I first was driving - my first four cars had no power steering. My first with PS was in 1995.

View attachment 167623
Click to expand...
Thats a beauty. I'm a sucker for twin headlights on a car.
 
Chewbacca said:
Depends on how you look at it. The majority of a cars emissions are produced during extraction of raw materials and manufacture of the vehicle. It is actually environmentally beneficial to keep an old car going.
Click to expand...
Interesting Chewy. Surely though, over time and unlimited miles, a point of equivalence would be reached with the fixed value of manufacture emissions? Therefore, ongoing emisions for said big engined old car would be at a greater rate than a more efficient modern machine, and would be time to change if emisions was a priority?
 

Attachments

  • car graph.webp
    car graph.webp
    11.3 KB · Views: 4
Bluerover said:
This is the 1972 Peugeot - Pinifarina designed. I love her as does Mrs BR - this was a family run last summer along the River Barrow (second longest river in Ireland) through Cos Kilkenny and Carlow and this was at the beautiful ancient monastic village of St Mullin's. Great fun to drive and is the only one without power steering - still, it takes me back to when I first was driving - my first four cars had no power steering. My first with PS was in 1995.

View attachment 167623
Click to expand...

Stunner ;)
 
I really have zero interest in cars other than as a means of getting from A to B, but I have a question and this seems like the right place to ask.
My car (which I use daily) is a 2004 2 litre avensis and is not compatible with E10 petrol.
I've noticed that more and more forecourts have now stopped selling E5 (and those that do of course sell the 'premium' brands only)
I'm told that using E5 could damage the engine, but my question is what damage does it cause? and just how big is the risk?



*and no, I haven't tried mixing it with sawdust :rolleyes:
 

kev said:
I really have zero interest in cars other than as a means of getting from A to B, but I have a question and this seems like the right place to ask.
My car (which I use daily) is a 2004 2 litre avensis and is not compatible with E10 petrol.
I've noticed that more and more forecourts have now stopped selling E5 (and those that do of course sell the 'premium' brands only)
I'm told that using E5 could damage the engine, but my question is what damage does it cause? and just how big is the risk?



*and no, I haven't tried mixing it with sawdust :rolleyes:
Click to expand...
E10 absorbs more water and can lead to corrosion of the tank - not an issue if you use the car frequently and refresh its petrol every month or so.
Another issue is that cars not designed for the extra ethanol in e10 can have their rubber fuel hoses and pumps damaged. We're talking going from 5% (its already been there for a few years) to 10% so how big a difference that will be is anyone's guess. Hoses can be changed easily and cheaply.
The last issue - caused by our enviro-caring government who love to use the environment to justify rafts of tax hikes, is that adding this extra 5% of bioethanol is supposedly there to protect the environment. However because of its lower calorific value, compared with petrol, you get worse petrol consumption - some people saying they get 10% less mpg. Of course this quietly means more emissions into the poor environment than if using straight fuel and added expense for the proles to add to the potential damage to their cars but, essentially, more fuel duty and vat for our blessed government - which demonstrates the level of genuine environmental concern they have.

Damage to the engine? Unlikely unless its a high revving hot sports car.
 
Bluerover said:
This is on over the weekend - I am thinking of going on Sunday. Three lovely routes from Kilkenny over the Comeragh Mountains, via Clonmel or via Carrick on Suir, or the Knockmealdown mountains via Cahir. The latter is longest but the views over the Vee and the wild Rhododendron at this time of the year are spectacular.
View attachment 167596

View attachment 167597

It will be my first proper run this year as I have been laid up with a chronic back and sciatica problem for months. It will be either the Merc 300 SE or the Rover SD1 V8.
Click to expand...
Team Rover me.

IMG_20210429_161051~2.webp
 
degsy said:
Team Rover me.

View attachment 167644
Click to expand...

Lovely. Is that yours and if so have you still got that - photo taken in 2000? It looks like a Series 2 - they went back to the traditional black and red for the badge. Mine is a Series 1 from 78 and has the "skeletal" badge which was not popular with Rover traditionalists.1653655588583.webp


This was taken in the dealer's from whom I bought her in early 2020. She was first owned by Harold Holdway who was given it on his retirement as the Chief Artist with Spode Pottery, Only 46000 on her and a load of paperwork.
 

Bluerover said:
Lovely. Is that yours and if so have you still got that - photo taken in 2000? It looks like a Series 2 - they went back to the traditional black and red for the badge. Mine is a Series 1 from 78 and has the "skeletal" badge which was not popular with Rover traditionalists.View attachment 167646


This was taken in the dealer's from whom I bought her in early 2020. She was first owned by Harold Holdway who was given it on his retirement as the Chief Artist with Spode Pottery, Only 46000 on her and a load of paperwork.
Click to expand...
I was in Auckland at the time, iirc it was a 1979 model cost me NZ$700 in 1998, had it about 4 yrs.
Saw this in a car show before Christmas in Brisbane.
I offered the guy $20,000 on the spot and he nearly bit my head off, not sure if he was miffed about the price or he just didn't want to sell...
It wasn't as red as it looks on the pic thank God, more maroon-ish
IMG_20210919_102535.jpg
 
Blue 1 said:
The Jensen Interceptor is one of my favourites. I would love to own one.

View attachment 167647
Click to expand...
I drove one .... a very elderly and tired I think 7 litre beast that my missus hired for my 50th birthday weekend. It was great to drive for the weekend and a besutiful car - but I decided afterwards I wouldn't want to own one. Given its enormous weight, 11mpg and complexity and the fact that nothing worked other than go, stop, steer and most of the lights - it was a case of never meet your heros.
 
Citroën SM. So far ahead of its time. Maserati Merak engine. One of the first cars to have variable-assist power steering, too.


1653657759931.png

Followed one around town where I live a couple of months ago. Not a car you see often. Love a 1970's sports coupe.
 
Last edited:
slipstream86 said:
Interesting Chewy. Surely though, over time and unlimited miles, a point of equivalence would be reached with the fixed value of manufacture emissions? Therefore, ongoing emisions for said big engined old car would be at a greater rate than a more efficient modern machine, and would be time to change if emisions was a priority?
Click to expand...
Don’t know the numbers comparing ICE v ICE but I have read that due to extra energy usage in manufacture you to drive a new EV for 51000 miles before you are in environmental credit.

I’m not an expert and not against EV per se, I’m just trying to justify driving my old V8 because I love the noise.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join Grand Old Team to get involved in the Everton discussion. Signing up is quick, easy, and completely free.

Register
Back
Top