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Oscar Pistorius trial discussion

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Brennan said:
Problem is that as it stands the prosecution have no hard evidence to prove premeditated murder, which is what they're after.

I don't think many people really believe his story as it stands.
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Where do we draw the line though? You could probably look at a number of murder cases without eye witnesses and put a twist on them.
 
EFC Si said:
Where do we draw the line though? You could probably look at a number of murder cases without eye witnesses and put a twist on them.
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The main issue so far is that the prosecution have put a lot of doubt on their credibility, first fudging witness statements, then the lead detective having to admit he got several things wrong in his original statement. The defence are trying to put enough doubt into the credibility of the prosecution's case for the judge to say 'i can't say beyond reasonable doubt that it was premeditated'.
 
Cant believe the Pistorius fella had a piece of paper in his room with all the girls names on that he wanted to kill. The prosecution are calling it 'Shinless List'.....
 

I am a firm believer in letting the courts decide so far we are all speculating , I think part of the issue with all this is reporting . journalists have a slant , it's natural but not just that having spoke to them one said to me "I can only report what's said , I can't say witness A lied his pants off" . The whole slant with the legs on, legs off issue there is absolutely no chance forensic experts have prepared detailed reports yet so both sides can basically say what they like . The rumours of the call from the rugby player has that been firmed up yet , have her friends been interviewed yet or the witness at the scene ? Have tests been carried out to see the evidence of the alleged shouting ? I'm saying probably no to all of it .

At the minute pistorious can say the drugs recovered are "testocomposutiim co-enzyme" , that's how it's been written in several newspapers , google it and the only mention it gets is being recovered at the pistorious scene. How about the fact that she clearly slept in the bed with her slippers putting her on a side of the bed where he'd have noticed she wasn't present as he passed . You see Oscar has an answer she did sleep there but they'd swopped sides because he had a sore shoulder .

I'm not saying he's guilty as I know how it feels to be accused of something I didn't do and a court saw that easily but at best Oscar has been a victim of frankly horrifically unfortunate set of circumstances . This is early days for everything it'll be judged by a full trial not by blokes on an Internet forum working on tweets from journos or being coloured by the opinions of reporters or articles .

Lets just say we all have opinions and there is nothing wrong with any of them but none of us really have a clue nor can we be certain of anything we are hearing reported . We are going to have to wait and see & personally I do find it fascinating .
 
sheeds said:
I am a firm believer in letting the courts decide so far we are all speculating , I think part of the issue with all this is reporting . journalists have a slant , it's natural but not just that having spoke to them one said to me "I can only report what's said , I can't say witness A lied his pants off" . The whole slant with the legs on, legs off issue there is absolutely no chance forensic experts have prepared detailed reports yet so both sides can basically say what they like . The rumours of the call from the rugby player has that been firmed up yet , have her friends been interviewed yet or the witness at the scene ? Have tests been carried out to see the evidence of the alleged shouting ? I'm saying probably no to all of it .

At the minute pistorious can say the drugs recovered are "testocomposutiim co-enzyme" , that's how it's been written in several newspapers , google it and the only mention it gets is being recovered at the pistorious scene. How about the fact that she clearly slept in the bed with her slippers putting her on a side of the bed where he'd have noticed she wasn't present as he passed . You see Oscar has an answer she did sleep there but they'd swopped sides because he had a sore shoulder .

I'm not saying he's guilty as I know how it feels to be accused of something I didn't do and a court saw that easily but at best Oscar has been a victim of frankly horrifically unfortunate set of circumstances . This is early days for everything it'll be judged by a full trial not by blokes on an Internet forum working on tweets from journos or being coloured by the opinions of reporters or articles .

Lets just say we all have opinions and there is nothing wrong with any of them but none of us really have a clue nor can we be certain of anything we are hearing reported . We are going to have to wait and see & personally I do find it fascinating .
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Totally agree, at the moment i suppose the prosecution is seeing the strenght of the defences hand being played out in the bail case.

I wonder when the real case starts, will Sky will re-enact the days proceedings like the Wacko Jacko case.
 
He's killed somebody in cold blood without being provoked.

For that reason he needs to do life in prison.

If it turns out he killed his girlfriend on purpose then he needs a full life sentence.

Arsehole.
 

butters said:
He's killed somebody in cold blood without being provoked.

For that reason he needs to do life in prison.

If it turns out he killed his girlfriend on purpose then he needs a full life sentence.

Arsehole.
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This. Even if it was a burglar, he's given no warning, he would have just killed the burglar in cold blood. Regardless of his motives, he's committed murder for me. His fabricated story does him no favours in my eyes.

I'm pretty sure over here he'd be banged up for murder for killing an actual burglar in those circumstances, even if he lawfully owned a gun.
 
sheeds said:
I am a firm believer in letting the courts decide so far we are all speculating , I think part of the issue with all this is reporting . journalists have a slant , it's natural but not just that having spoke to them one said to me "I can only report what's said , I can't say witness A lied his pants off" . The whole slant with the legs on, legs off issue there is absolutely no chance forensic experts have prepared detailed reports yet so both sides can basically say what they like . The rumours of the call from the rugby player has that been firmed up yet , have her friends been interviewed yet or the witness at the scene ? Have tests been carried out to see the evidence of the alleged shouting ? I'm saying probably no to all of it .

At the minute pistorious can say the drugs recovered are "testocomposutiim co-enzyme" , that's how it's been written in several newspapers , google it and the only mention it gets is being recovered at the pistorious scene. How about the fact that she clearly slept in the bed with her slippers putting her on a side of the bed where he'd have noticed she wasn't present as he passed . You see Oscar has an answer she did sleep there but they'd swopped sides because he had a sore shoulder .

I'm not saying he's guilty as I know how it feels to be accused of something I didn't do and a court saw that easily but at best Oscar has been a victim of frankly horrifically unfortunate set of circumstances . This is early days for everything it'll be judged by a full trial not by blokes on an Internet forum working on tweets from journos or being coloured by the opinions of reporters or articles .

Lets just say we all have opinions and there is nothing wrong with any of them but none of us really have a clue nor can we be certain of anything we are hearing reported . We are going to have to wait and see & personally I do find it fascinating .
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I wouldn't really say he's avictim.I'd say at best he's guilty of manslaughter.She was the victim.But your right that we are only speculating.To me it doesn't matter if there was drugs in the house or if he had his false legs on, niether would prove anything.
 

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