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Other clubs summer transfers 2023
- Thread starter Billy Dean
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Max Aarons back in the PL, Zat's favourite RB, worth a staggering £7m
Where did you get you're figures mate ? Don't know if transfer market is precise, but let's play.
Season 20/21 - 98m euros
Season 21/22 -2.8m euros ( season they sold Grealish.)
Season 22/23 -46m euros
Season 23/24 - 85m euros up to now...now that comes to over £231m euros the last 4 seasons and to be fair Villa are looking a lot better teamwise than we are. But I imagine their wage bill would be far higher than ours. And the stadium may have been based on ridiculously high sponsorship money, but it has not got any of that money, in reality we are taking on a lot of debt to build the stadium. So if you have any different figures or want to talk some more about our " "suspiciously high stadium sponsorship deals" I'm all ears.
Like I said...Though I would add that I'm speaking about the current window as one of the last 2 seasons. The figures you've quoted suggest you're on the same page.
Spent £120M net over the last 2 seasons (22/23 & 23/24).....46M euros + 85M euros is roughly around £120M yeah? Given we're only guessing based on reported deals.
And then breaking roughly even the season before that....net spend of 2.8M euros strikes me as breaking roughly even in the transfer market for a top flight club. As you're bringing the 20/21 season into things then sure lets throw that in the mix....but TV money (approx £70M-£80M per season) still covers it. And the rules allow clubs to make an operating loss of around 70M per season averaged over rolling 3 year periods though I could be off with the finer details of this.
I personally don't think their wage bill over the last 4 years if we're bringing in 20/21 is higher than ours has been (Rodriguez 200 - 250k p/w etc).
It may well be a bit higher at this moment but spending rules are based on a period of time and not just the here and now. I'd also imagine our manager and staff turnover has exceed theirs over this period. I don't know who got paid what precisely but we've certainly gone through more managerial and backroom staff.
As you say, if we aren't getting that sponsorship money and are taking on debt for the stadium then that makes it harder to stay within limits and spend. Villa aren't dealing with those issues as far as I know.
You were saying it's amazing they stay within limits. I'm saying it's not.
Clause they are minus 231m euros, the Grealish £100m stopped them being over 331m euros, it's still not good at all.
Are you completely excluding TV money and commercial performance from their finances? That's not how financial rules work.
Also the stadium debt has nothing to do with limits, United are 1 Billion in debt with an old creaking stadium.
Well yes because ours isn't counted in that either, we are roughly on similar commercial deals our board said so, Villa have earned more PL money due to their better finishes in the league the last two years. Thought the discussion was what was spent and recouped over the last 3 or 4 years. The last three years we have probably made a profit on player trading, or its pretty close. Btw I'm not bragging about that as our team is crap atm.
Operating losses and sustaining debt are different things. Plenty of businesses do very well while carrying a lot of debt. The condition of a stadium is pretty irrelevant to P&S rules so long as it's in good enough condition to keep the dough rolling in - Old Trafford probably still does this much better than a lot of grounds.
Our board said so
. They may be right but their track record as regards truth is sketchy at best.It's not about earnings or player trading. You were posting that it's amazing Villa can spend what they have and implying it's somehow unfair....
It's very clear how they stay with P&S or FFP or whatever. Everton's problems stem from many, many years of heavy spending that failed massively to improve the lot of the club and have been exacerbated partly by the fallout of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the financial commitment to building a new stadium.
We're not the only club who spend money and waste it but it's difficult to see who's spent more wastefully in the last 10 years in terms of what they can afford to waste.
kenada_blue
Welcome to Barcelonaton FC
He will. Won't be told to play total football under Ten Jarg
GlosBlue
Player Valuation: £25m
Hopefully they can ion out any negative aspects to his game and he will be splitting open defences in no time.
If they play a low block he will be boss. He can’t have space behind him. People punting balls in the box and his massive heed clearing them is his strength.
duncs pigeon
Player Valuation: £35m
I agree mate. I think Maguire is half decent, just dont think he was worth £80m. Still got 4-5 yrs left so if he can keep West Ham mid table or higher, will be worth the £30m.
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