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2017/18 Oumar Niasse

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tremont said:
Most of us on here thought Niasse was shocking (Russian gangsters and money laundering had crossed my mind – he was that bad haha). A few people have commented on his inability to control a ball in the warm up before a game, so the fact that Koeman, and the players could see Niasse in training would only have lowered their opinion of him. Lukaku described him as “raw” (which I took to mean “crap). It turns out that Niasse can play only one way – all out.


If you look at his goals, most of them are explosive – he is competing, and is all out. He can’t do that in training. People get hurt. (Was there also not an instance when he injured Deulofeu in pre-season last year?).


Koeman’s treatment of Niasse was brutal, but you can’t really blame him for not playing him. You can’t even blame him for wanting rid of him – Not from what he must have seen in training.
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Agree entirely. Wouldn't surprise me if he was bought on the evidence of a YouTube clip.

BUT - he's produced the goods this week, so......
 
tremont said:
Most of us on here thought Niasse was shocking (Russian gangsters and money laundering had crossed my mind – he was that bad haha). A few people have commented on his inability to control a ball in the warm up before a game, so the fact that Koeman, and the players could see Niasse in training would only have lowered their opinion of him. Lukaku described him as “raw” (which I took to mean “crap). It turns out that Niasse can play only one way – all out.


If you look at his goals, most of them are explosive – he is competing, and is all out. He can’t do that in training. People get hurt. (Was there also not an instance when he injured Deulofeu in pre-season last year?).


Koeman’s treatment of Niasse was brutal, but you can’t really blame him for not playing him. You can’t even blame him for wanting rid of him – Not from what he must have seen in training.
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In boxing there us a term about certain fighter being 'gym fighters' meaning they look great in the gym and in sparring etc because they go all out during training as if it's the actual bout, but when the bout starts they have absolutely no other level to raise themselves too, where as most boxers train/spar in order to work on things to peak on the actual night. IF that transcribes to some football i don't know, but could explain how some managers seem to pick people who constantly look bang average in matches - but maybe they always look superb in training etc (Fellaini apparently is one of those)

May be something in what you say that Niasse is just an absolutely terrible player when not going 100% all out in a game etc, i was hugely critical when we signed him from Russia for what was a huge fee at the time - and IMO he looked no way good enough for the level we aimed at, but even i was shocked at just how god terrible he looked initially at us (think initially i compared him to a Kone level player but with pace - as in Kone pre injury - but no way near as bad as he looked when arriving/training apparently)
 

Groucho said:
We have a CF who's not scared of, and has scored against, LFC.

Just sayin'..........
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Thing is, how far is the Niasse story going to go. Most of us thought his treatment last year was appalling. I think that put a lot of us on his side ("It's not his fault he's crap" sort of thing). From that, he goes to Hull, and scores against Man Utd in the League Cup (ending there unbeaten run). He then scores the winner against Liverpool (on a day that we beat Bournemouth 6-3). I thought that was the fairytale right there. He then somehow get's recalled to the first team squad, and get's a game from the bench against Sunderland - and scores. And then yesterday happened.

The way things are panning out for Niasse and Everton......
 

The sign of a good manager is the ability to see what is staring them in the face! moyes couldn't and nor could Martinez, lets see if Koeman can? His preferred set up isnt working, this 'fallback' option clearly is at the moment. If he reverts to yesterdays starting line up again against Burnley, then he is clearly a massive bell and needs binning!
 
anyone else think koeman got lucky by putting him on? Maybe he was just trying to prove a point about the jan failings to say "look at what i have to play now". It definitely toes along the same line of "i'll have to recall niasse now because you guys couldn't buy a striker".

I'm just thankful we didn't sell him, selling him, as well as barry and as well as all the left backs we sent on loan when we didn't have any replacements would have been silly.
 

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