2017/18 Oumar Niasse

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I thought he got straight up from memory. I know that's not really part of it, but he certainly didn't look like he was playing for the free. Need to have another look but I'm glad it's been appealed.
 
My solution would be to only give a pen if it's absolutely stick-on. The players are all at it in the box.
It wasn't a pen on Saturday for a start and I'm amazed the ref even considered it. If that had happened against us I'd be furious and no amount of retrospective bans or fines would make up for it.
 

I have seen less credible penalties with the slightest of touches where the forward has gone down & gained a penalty...
NIASSE totally exagerrated the block, however he was blocked & went down penalty given.....

To accuse NIASSE of diving is totally wrong imo.....

Everton will appeal & have got a case.....
 
I believe it was a penalty. You can see Oumar bursting forward prior to contact with Dann. I can't see how Oumar would have generated enough force to take a sideways motion after contact. In fact, you can see Dann's arm thrusting into Oumar, at 21 seconds mark in the video, causing him to take a sideway tumble.

Let's imagine an oil tanker heading in a forward direction. The tanker can't just take a sideway motion unless there is a considerable force such as a wave heading side on.

Oumar is innocent and the real cheat, I believe, is Dann who has acted unethically by ruining the name of a fellow professional.

 
The problem is the FA refuse to accept any accountability for anything, so it's always the blame game. If these dives are so blatant, why aren't referees trained better to spot them? Why are defenders allowed to get away with shirt pulling and or holding in the box, when the advantage is supposed to be with the attacker?

If that "dive" was so bad that it required retrospective action to punish the player, then the officials who failed to see it should be punished as well. After all, even if Niasse did dive, and I don't believe he did, he didn't award the penalty.

The referee has the ability to change the result with a bad decision, not a player, whether that be playing on when a foul has occurred, incorrectly calling a foul, sending someone off when a player has won the ball, allowing or ruling out goals that may or may not have been offside, even allowing for additional time or blowing up at inopportune moments.

The players often get the brunt of all of this, but it's the officials who negatively affect results in games up and down the country on a regular basis, and it doesn't take a genius to spot that the imbalance of decisions appear to be in favour of the more popular teams.

This entire farce is a deflection to distract from the true problem of cheating in football. The cheating that is not only allowed, but encouraged by the corrupt governing bodies who realise which teams and players make them the most money.

And the whole trial by MOTD thing needs to stop as well.
 

roydo said:
He isnt being done for diving. Hes being done for diving badly.
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exactly, because the FA are utter muppets and don't understand the mannerisms of modern day footballers. I'm sorry, but they constantly enforce things half arsed. Just like when they introduced yellow cards for diving ... there's no consistency of when it's actually enforced. One ref will wave play on for about 8 games and then one game in where he's already waved play on, he waps out a yellow for one dive. It's just stupid, it makes the whole system seem a joke, no wonder everyone dives.
 
toffeejack said:
exactly, because the FA are utter muppets and don't understand the mannerisms of modern day footballers. I'm sorry, but they constantly enforce things half arsed. Just like when they introduced yellow cards for diving ... there's no consistency of when it's actually enforced. One ref will wave play on for about 8 games and then one game in where he's already waved play on, he waps out a yellow for one dive. It's just stupid, it makes the whole system seem a joke, no wonder everyone dives.
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The yellow cards for diving was a FIFA directive.

As we have seen that many of the dives that have been sanctioned by way of a yellow card are questionable. Refs in real time with one look at a supposed dive often can’t be sure their training tells them they have to be 100% certain so are reluctant and if you watch it’s very very rare for a ref to give a second yellow to a player for a dive.

The retrospective diving isn’t based on that one look at indeed I suspect that before the charge the incident will have been looked at dozens if not hundreds of times and from camera angles that aren’t viewed on TV. The fact that the three man panel all believed it was simulation is telling
 
toffeejack said:
exactly, because the FA are utter muppets and don't understand the mannerisms of modern day footballers. I'm sorry, but they constantly enforce things half arsed. Just like when they introduced yellow cards for diving ... there's no consistency of when it's actually enforced. One ref will wave play on for about 8 games and then one game in where he's already waved play on, he waps out a yellow for one dive. It's just stupid, it makes the whole system seem a joke, no wonder everyone dives.
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That's the one I don't get, the waving play on. I understand that not every bit of contact is a foul or a dive and there is some in between.

But oftentimes I see the defender swing a leg and get nowhere near the ball, the forward goes down and the ref waves play on, telling him to get up. In those cases, if it's not a penalty, it's a dive. The ref's seen it and decided to just ignore the rules. They're enforced so inconsistently.
 
Undisputed_blue said:
I believe it was a penalty. You can see Oumar bursting forward prior to contact with Dann. I can't see how Oumar would have generated enough force to take a sideways motion after contact. In fact, you can see Dann's arm thrusting into Oumar, at 21 seconds mark in the video, causing him to take a sideway tumble.

Let's imagine an oil tanker heading in a forward direction. The tanker can't just take a sideway motion unless there is a considerable force such as a wave heading side on.

Oumar is innocent and the real cheat, I believe, is Dann who has acted unethically by ruining the name of a fellow professional.

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Whatever. That was incredibly weak from Niasse, and you know it.
 

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