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Phil Jagielka

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sportbillyblue said:
.. and not for the first time. Recently he's been showing great form and leadership and y'day somewhat embarrassed himself.

I've never considered him to be a 'clever player', moving him from his natural right side of the CB pairing to the left side may have unsettled him. Roonet beating him for pace, at least twice, doesn't bode well.
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If he'd made that error and played like that for England he'd be out. I dont see why we should have to tolerate it, tbh.

I'm not calling for him to be dropped. Obviously he's been in fine form for Everton up until now, and I have no problem with Jagielka as long as he's an effective stopper week in week out. But (and this has always been my main doubt about him) when he's lost focus in the past he finds it very difficult to nip it in the bud and not allow a mistake or poor game affect him. He's gone into a three or four game slide thereafter.

As for switching back to Left CB: didn't he play midweek for England on the left with Jones on the right? He was in the groove of that side of a CB pairing and shouldn't have found it too difficult yesterday.
 
He's been an effective marshall of a defence that has had 3 starters out for a long period of time. One misspass does not change that. Coleman was by far our worst performer yesterday.
 

ArtetaMoney said:
I've got a sense of humour mate, I follow Ladbible on Twitter and watch Celebrity Juice.

Anyway, back to Jagielka. He's boss.
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He is boss just looked a bit tired - the game was over imo when he made that bad pass he was not the worst player on the pitch - never heard of your Twitter themes, but I will take your word for it - I was trying to point out he and RB were not needed for England on Monday night!
 

if he's damaged knee structure, is t that what Kone did? His actual knee cap needed rebuilding which sounds similar to this. That nearly ended Kone for good, some may argue it still has!
 
davek said:
If he'd made that error and played like that for England he'd be out. I dont see why we should have to tolerate it, tbh.

I'm not calling for him to be dropped. Obviously he's been in fine form for Everton up until now, and I have no problem with Jagielka as long as he's an effective stopper week in week out. But (and this has always been my main doubt about him) when he's lost focus in the past he finds it very difficult to nip it in the bud and not allow a mistake or poor game affect him. He's gone into a three or four game slide thereafter.

As for switching back to Left CB: didn't he play midweek for England on the left with Jones on the right? He was in the groove of that side of a CB pairing and shouldn't have found it too difficult yesterday.
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Could be a blessing that he's injured then, Mori looks OK to step up
 

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