not a huge fan of his, but sorry he's injured as he has been leading some young defenders well this season
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Steverton
Player Valuation: £500k
He scored 6 last year, fourth most on the squad. How many is he supposed to score?
Don't think number of goals should be too big of a determining factor for how good a CB is anyways. He was our player of the season last year and will be greatly missed.
I salute you as the wrongest poster on here, and that's not an insult. I'm genuinely in awe at your consistency.
Who you on about?
If he's not tied to a post, lashed then skinned alive next home game then I've lost faith in Everton. How he's even allowed exist in the same world as me burns my soul. Worse than genghis khan and hitler and Manson.
/sarcastic venting over.
/sarcastic venting over.
Take him off ignore and appreciate his art.
Christ...that's when the ignore feature makes it confusing. He was a much better contributor to this forum when he was banned.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
As I've maintained all along: Jagielka = good stopper type CB worth persevering with in a team with lots of funds to go out and get top quality, but always prone each season to a slump that costs us.
Howard was diabolical for the crosses for their two goals, but Jagielka was utterly lost positionally and offered us no organisational capacity between those two Arsenal goals. I expect a captain to be able to step in and show some command of the situation when we fall behind. The past two games he's allowed us to go from a poor position to a dire position almost straight away.
Player of the season yada yada yada, England CB yada yada yada...he's never going to give us what we crucially need back there in defence: consistent form throughout a season and leadership and authority on the pitch. IMO, he's one of the worst captains we've had in those terms for years.
Howard was diabolical for the crosses for their two goals, but Jagielka was utterly lost positionally and offered us no organisational capacity between those two Arsenal goals. I expect a captain to be able to step in and show some command of the situation when we fall behind. The past two games he's allowed us to go from a poor position to a dire position almost straight away.
Player of the season yada yada yada, England CB yada yada yada...he's never going to give us what we crucially need back there in defence: consistent form throughout a season and leadership and authority on the pitch. IMO, he's one of the worst captains we've had in those terms for years.
sportbillyblue
Player Valuation: £8m
we're knee deep in CB's, it's a great opportunity for some of our youngsters to shine. In Jagielka's absence first choice CB pairing must be Stones and Mori. Browning, Galloway, Pennington, Besic, Holgate offer good cover.
We've also got to think about the skipper's role. We can't give Howard the armband, he shouldn't even be on the pitch, Coleman doesn't strike me as having the personality or presence to be a skipper .. noticed Galloway barking out the orders yesterday but possibly too early for him. I don't think there would be many objections in giving Stones the armband ... and it shows intent.
We've also got to think about the skipper's role. We can't give Howard the armband, he shouldn't even be on the pitch, Coleman doesn't strike me as having the personality or presence to be a skipper .. noticed Galloway barking out the orders yesterday but possibly too early for him. I don't think there would be many objections in giving Stones the armband ... and it shows intent.
As you pointed out very eloquently on the Martinez thread, the whole club were likely affected by the sad news of Kendall. Surely that is likely to impact the club captain the greatest as not only will he be the player who will have talked to Kendall the most frequently of the current squad but he'll have some of the closest connections with the general staff and Evertonian mood?
Apart from that game Jags has had a great season leading a disturbed backline coming into the Arsenal match, following on from his generally good form for 2015.
And yet as soon as he makes the slightest dip from that form you are all over him with long standing complaints. You criticize people for doing that in the Martinez thread but honestly can't see how your behaviour to Jags is any different.
RFUS
Anustart
Problem is a lot of them are being required to play LB/RB.
Once Baines is back and assuming Coleman can stay fit, then we'll be fine. Though the problems caused by having to start a new CB pairing every other game shouldn't be ignored. CBs rarely "just slot in" and need a bit of time to develop an understanding with the players around them.
For example I noticed some poor communication between Stones and Funes Mori yesterday when the latter rushed across to Stones's side of the pitch to clear the danger. They both went for the same ball and if RFM had missed we'd have had no one in the middle. Thankfully he won the ball, like.
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