Phil Jagielka

[Goat]

Koeman only gives shirts to players on merit...unless they're senior pros who can rock the boat for him...then he'll back down and continue to play them if they underperform.

Ross Barkley is a senior pro.

 

[messymascot]

I would like to see Funes Mori given a chance alongside Williams, Jagielka should be benched or rested altogether if not fully fit. Jagielka has been an outstanding player for ourselves but can not be picked based on being a good servant. Time moves on and I would hate to see him remembered as an error prone player rather than the top professional he has been for most of his time here.

 

[4737carlin]

I would like to see Funes Mori given a chance alongside Williams, Jagielka should be benched or rested altogether if not fully fit. Jagielka has been an outstanding player for ourselves but can not be picked based on being a good servant. Time moves on and I would hate to see him remembered as an error prone player rather than the top professional he has been for most of his time here.

Jags has had a awful few weeks, great servant but along with a keeper I think its one of the main things we need to look at in January is another quality center half.

 

[Toffeelover]

Jags has had a awful few weeks, great servant but along with a keeper I think its one of the main things we need to look at in January is another quality center half.

It strikes me that you are correct we have to look for a replacement but I would also include Baines in that.

 

[davek]

Ross Barkley is a senior pro.

Reserved 22 year old who wont answer back gets 'wake up call".

Let's hope *the other* senior pro gets the wake up call too...or in his case a massive shake of his wobbly head.

 

[Toffeelover]

Reserved 22 year old who wont answer back gets 'wake up call".

Let's hope *the other* senior pro gets the wake up call too...or in his case a massive shake of his wobbly head.

+++

 

[GwladysBlue]

Jagielka has been a great defender on the whole for us, but he has always been prone to errors.

One that sticks out for me was when he gave the ball straight to Ashley Young straight after we equalised against Aston Villa to make it 2-2 and we lost 3-2 in the 94th minute.

 

[Toffeelover]

Jagielka has been a great defender on the whole for us, but he has always been prone to errors.

One that sticks out for me was when he gave the ball straight to Ashley Young straight after we equalised against Aston Villa to make it 2-2 and we lost 3-2 in the 94th minute.

Remember that, makes you wonder at times who's side is he on.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Jagielka has been a great defender on the whole for us, but he has always been prone to errors.

One that sticks out for me was when he gave the ball straight to Ashley Young straight after we equalised against Aston Villa to make it 2-2 and we lost 3-2 in the 94th minute.

I was almost suicidal after that lol

 

[fandjango]

I would like to see Funes Mori given a chance alongside Williams, Jagielka should be benched or rested altogether if not fully fit. Jagielka has been an outstanding player for ourselves but can not be picked based on being a good servant. Time moves on and I would hate to see him remembered as an error prone player rather than the top professional he has been for most of his time here.

"For ourselves ...."hmm creative grammar that .

 

[messymascot]

"For ourselves ...."hmm creative grammar that .

Perhaps us would have been better and less effort to type!!

 

[moyes cardy]

He has been our best defender for many years - a difficult couple of weeks and now we want him out - underlines why many would never be near any key decisions Football or otherwise.

 

[4737carlin]

He has been our best defender for many years - a difficult couple of weeks and now we want him out - underlines why many would never be near any key decisions Football or otherwise.

Great players all come to an end, any decent manager capable of making key decisions will be able to see when to start planning ahead, and that it what RK will be doing right now, or at least should be.

Dont forget Koeman played as a defender and was known for being able to pick out a long pass, some of the hoofs under no real pressure yesterday from Jags must of hurt his eyes.

 

[germanblue]

He will bounce back, no question!

 

[Tel001]

But by playing in the premier league he's not achieved anything. He simply was lucky enough to be good enough. Saying playing in itself is an achievement is akin to saying successfully getting the bus into work tomorrow morning is success. Surely what you do and what you win, and the accolades you receive are the achievements.

But yea probably a different debate altogether that I'm getting into. I just think Jagielka is weak mentally not sensible choice as captain of a fragile side.

Jags himself was let go by Everton when he was young... it was the making of him apparently... said he realised he might not make it and focused and worked hard and has worked his way into the England team