Poppy watch 2022

[magicjuan]

No, I just don't agree with it.

You don't hide it well. Bless.
Thanks for the rampant digit, possibly my first, I'm overcome. ?

 

[coollino]

No, I just don't agree with it.

You don't agree with the actual definition or the fake one made up by sections of the media and right?

 

[BluePaul86]

You don't agree with the actual definition or the fake one made up by sections of the media and right?

Whatever your interpretation is really.

 

[Moomin]

No, I just don't agree with it.

You agree with racism and social injustice?

 

[anjelikaferrett]

I stopped buying a poppy in 2015 because of this. Thousands of Merchant sailors lost their lives in the war. My Dad spent his whole working life as a merchant seaman.

I donate to the Merchant Navy Association instead and choose to remember the fallen without a poppy. Which doesn't make unpatriotic.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/6...-Navy-heroic-veterans-Festival-of-Remembrance

 

[John BCN]

 

[Bluerover]

I used to sing with St Canice's Cathedral (Anglican) choir for about 8 years , and was happy to wear a poppy for the Remembrance Sunday service each year. I have a relative who was killed on 1st July 1916 with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. But I didn't go around wearing it for days and weeks beforehand - however everyone to their own.

I also had a great uncle who was executed by the Free State Government in the Civil War - his centenary is 19th December and I will be attending Memorial Ceremonies for him and his comrades. I won't be wearing any symbols at these, but will remember all who died, from both sides, in that horrible bloodshed between fellow Irishmen.

All war is wrong.

 

[magicjuan]

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Isn't all this 'virtue signalling' as a method of advertising?

 

[ClausThomsen]

No, I just don't agree with it.

Is there a particular single act of wokeism that particularly defines whatever it means to you?

 

[Rob17896]

a huge common misconception here, it was originally about racial injustice but the right use it as a marketing tool and now it covers, well, everything, according to the woke lovers

Who are a better proposition than the anti-woke neanderthals who call something woke when they mean civilised.

 

[ClausThomsen]

I wear my poppy every year with pride, and in remembrance to an uncle who helped liberate Bergan-Belsen in April 1945.

Sadly, and I think this is the gist of this thread, it has now become a case of 'one-upmanship' and tasteless tat merchandise.

Despite this, I will buy and proudly wear one every year (discarding it after remembrance Sunday ends)

The middle class left despise any perceived manifestation of patriotism, and they find traditional working class exhibitions of this as embarrassing.

It is mark of remembrance for the fallen and the sacrifice they made - not patriotism.

EDIT - 'perceived' My bad.

Though I'd disagree that distaste of jingoistic displays is some kind of middle-class leftist thing. Plenty of working class people have issues with among them many, many former squaddies.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I almost got a poppy tattooed on my chest when I was in the forces.

Then I didn't want it to be red so was going to get it blue.

Then I spent all my money on beer and the moment passed.

Good old beer, saved the day again.

 

[Rob17896]

I stopped buying a poppy in 2015 because of this. Thousands of Merchant sailors lost their lives in the war. My Dad spent his whole working life as a merchant seaman.

I donate to the Merchant Navy Association instead and choose to remember the fallen without a poppy. Which doesn't make unpatriotic.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/6...-Navy-heroic-veterans-Festival-of-Remembrance

I also get conflicted because we were forced into WW2 and the courage of many was beyond belief. But it now implies total support for everything the military do, and we have done many things to be ashamed of at the instigation of government

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I used to sing with St Canice's Cathedral (Anglican) choir for about 8 years , and was happy to wear a poppy for the Remembrance Sunday service each year. I have a relative who was killed on 1st July 1916 with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. But I didn't go around wearing it for days and weeks beforehand - however everyone to their own.

I also had a great uncle who was executed by the Free State Government in the Civil War - his centenary is 19th December and I will be attending Memorial Ceremonies for him and his comrades. I won't be wearing any symbols at these, but will remember all who died, from both sides, in that horrible bloodshed between fellow Irishmen.

All war is wrong.

Great post.

 

[Diogenes the Cynic]

It's become over commercialised now but it shouldn't take away from the essence of what the poppy signifies.

I'm not bothered if people don't wear them but I am bothered if people are harassed for either choosing to wear one or not. Wars were fought for freedoms of choice.

At the end of the day it's a little bit of coloured paper and plastic, it can mean whatever you want it to mean. I wear one because it reminds me of the unimaginable sacrifice that people have gone before us have made.

And not willingly either, millions of innocent people sent to slaughter by the evil or greed or ineptitude of their leaders or just because it was the only option they had to preserve the lives of their family and culture.

I wear it and thank God I wasn't one of them and hope that people won't think that it can't happen again if we don't produce a better world.