POTUS 2016

Push the button, pull the lever, who's it going to be?

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SerenityNigh said:
I think (mostly) that Trump and Sanders are good or the primaries; there's great fatigue among voters, but I think we need more moderate elected officials. The growth of the gap between parties has been harmful (in my opinion) and I think we'd be better off with more middle of the road politicians*. Bush, Clinton, and (probably) Rubio seem to fit this trend toward moderation.

This is an entirely interesting/disheartening read:

http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/

PP-2014-06-12-polarization-0-01.png


*As a moderate, this view fits me well, but may not be entirely accurate.
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I don't the policy positions themselves are the problem, it's the hardline ideology of following your policy positions like a goddamm religion that's the biggest American political issue. This is mostly a tea party/freedom caucus issue and they need to (politically) die a very, very painful death for it. Our government barely functions anymore because of it. It's just constant brinksmanship and short term funding bills to pass it over.

(inb4 "but there are liberals who are hardliners too!!!1". Sure. There's a couple. And they're small in number and generally marginalized by the party, not put on a pedestal. There's very clearly one group here to blame for this.)

Remember when we used to pass budgets and not just continuing resolutions? [Poor language removed] man, those were the days.
 

Garrick said:
I don't the policy positions themselves are the problem, it's the hardline ideology of following your policy positions like a goddamm religion that's the biggest American political issue. This is mostly a tea party/freedom caucus issue and they need to (politically) die a very, very painful death for it. Our government barely functions anymore because of it. It's just constant brinksmanship and short term funding bills to pass it over.

(inb4 "but there are liberals who are hardliners too!!!1". Sure. There's a couple. And they're small in number and generally marginalized by the party, not put on a pedestal. There's very clearly one group here to blame for this.)

Remember when we used to pass budgets and not just continuing resolutions? [Poor language removed] man, those were the days.
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Tea Party may be to blame, but both parties have shifted, at least given the metrics we have so far
 


SerenityNigh said:
This is an entirely interesting/disheartening read:

http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/

PP-2014-06-12-polarization-0-01.png
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I think this plays a big part in the above. These changes were from 2007 to 2014
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/11/03/u-s-public-becoming-less-religious/


Indeed, the Pew report suggests that polarization along religious lines may be increasing in the United States. While the percentage of Americans who say they don't affiliate with any religious tradition is growing, those people who still identify with a religion are becoming even more devout. A growing share of the "religiously affiliated" say they regularly read scripture, participate in prayer groups and share their faith with others.
 

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