Project restart discussion.

[Old Blue 2]

Not sure, you know...The Times article says:


“The governing body has wide-ranging powers as a “special shareholder” as part of the agreement when the Premier League was created in 1991. That includes being able to veto any changes to promotion and relegation”

Constitutionally, the FA’s powers may well exceed those of the PL.

I agree with you, but I would also say that that is what the cricket authorities thought until Kerry Packer came along...

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Not sure, you know...The Times article says:


“The governing body has wide-ranging powers as a “special shareholder” as part of the agreement when the Premier League was created in 1991. That includes being able to veto any changes to promotion and relegation”

Constitutionally, the FA’s powers may well exceed those of the PL.

The FA can’t impose a PPG conclusion on the PL. What they’re currently doing is grandstanding trying to bribe the league into accepting the neutral venue solution. The outcome of yesterday’s meeting and the universal rejection of neutral venues at this point, would suggest it didn’t work.

 

[WA Toffee]

With the global audience growing as it is, I really believe (if clubs can market themselves effectively) that this is the future for TV rights.

I may, of course, be entirely mistaken.

I think some clubs have already been scrounging for a bigger share of international rights, can't remember if it got approved or not

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

I've already paid for my season ticket for next year but I'm saying right now that if we go along with this farce and play games in these laughable empty little "neutral venues" then I'll be asking the club for a refund. The sport will of spat on me once again and by going along with such plans Everton Football Club will of done so to. I have no interest in watching a sport (let alone paying an extortionate fee for the privilege of doing so) that considers me so utterly worthless and are happy to treat me in such a way.

 

[catcherintherye]

The FA can’t impose a PPG conclusion on the PL. What they’re currently doing is grandstanding trying to bribe the league into accepting the neutral venue solution. The outcome of yesterday’s meeting and the universal rejection of neutral venues at this point, would suggest it didn’t work.

Or if they FA tried to, they would potentially put themselves in a position where they were liable for the decision.

If the season gets cancelled, 14 teams will need to decide what they do next. At this point, most of the suggestions are just hot air, and you will only begin to see where people stand once cancellation is accepted. I suspect you have a lot of clubs, who are still going along with the cancellation option and don't wish to kick up too much of a fuss until it's cancelled.

I felt they would kick it down the road again, and the main take out is they still want to finish the season. I always felt mid to late May would be when it began to sink in and decisions would be given, and I'll stick to that.

What this also reads like to me, if the FA potentially absolving itself from litigation, either from Liverpool or from clubs in the EFL who may have said they weren't strong enough with the PL. It is a very odd stance though, to say you can't cancel, yet they have cancelled every league from tier 5 downwards.

 

[Lanolin]

With the global audience growing as it is, I really believe (if clubs can market themselves effectively) that this is the future for TV rights.

I may, of course, be entirely mistaken.

The global audience is only for select teams though. Nobody in Kuala Lumpur is paying specifically to watch Norwich play Bournemouth, particularly when it doesn't have its own special kick off time and is directly competing for viewers with Chelsea V Liverpool and United V City. Such a deal would be a disaster for us, we'd do better out of it than half the league but we'd be absolutely massacred by the 'top 6'. If you think the current set up is weighted in their favour, that one would see the chances of anyone crashing their party virtually ended.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Or if they FA tried to, they would potentially put themselves in a position where they were liable for the decision.

If the season gets cancelled, 14 teams will need to decide what they do next. At this point, most of the suggestions are just hot air, and you will only begin to see where people stand once cancellation is accepted. I suspect you have a lot of clubs, who are still going along with the cancellation option and don't wish to kick up too much of a fuss until it's cancelled.

I felt they would kick it down the road again, and the main take out is they still want to finish the season. I always felt mid to late May would be when it began to sink in and decisions would be given, and I'll stick to that.

What this also reads like to me, if the FA potentially absolving itself from litigation, either from Liverpool or from clubs in the EFL who may have said they weren't strong enough with the PL. It is a very odd stance though, to say you can't cancel, yet they have cancelled every league from tier 5 downwards.

They’re also going to have to cancel L1/2. I suppose they could try and impose a PPG solution on those 2 leagues, and hope the clubs concerned don’t have the financial wherewithal to sue them.

The FA are merely wanting to try and keep UEFA and the EFL happy, by trying to strong arm the PL into a definitive conclusion that resolves the European and relegation places.

Only PPG will never fly in the PL, not least because dependant on the model used there’s 2 different outcomes. So if the FA tried pushing the PL to vote for one of the two PPG models or nothing, then in essence they’d be asking the 20 PL clubs to decide who they wanted to relegate, as it’d be a straight choice between West Ham and Bournemouth. Legally they’d be tied in knots in court if that was the scenario.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

In a yougov survey (admittedly usual small sample size of just a couple of thousand - so massive uncertainty as to just how reflective it really is) 73% said football coming back would not lift their morale generally.

Even if this isn't particularly reflective the stuff they're coming out with is utter rubbish.

There are very solid financial reasons behind why it's essential for the owners of premier league clubs to want to complete this season, it's a premium product and profitable industry - the premier league will want to do all it can to protect it's position and the clubs' owners - most of whom are very rich men who battled to become a part of this exclusive premium club will naturally want to protect it's position too.

For the premier league to keep its preeminent position a restart is the only option but let's not pretend it's lifting everyone's morale or any other guff.

(In a separate development Spurs, Chelsea and West Ham and obvious others (Brighton) are apparently opposed to continuing at all on neutral grounds)

 

[Blue 1]

This is all quite disgusting.

It's making me feel like I'm just about done with the Premier League.

Everywhere else pretty much has voided their league for this season, but there's so much money at stake they won't countenance it, and it'll be the smaller clubs that get shafted, as usual, one way or another.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Premier League football has become so odious- the whole project restart combined with the disgraceful use of VAR and bonkers laws such as undeliberate handball etc. have made this season an utter farce. The murdering Saudi's also ending up at Newcastle shows the league the sham for what it is - £££

Truth be told im not even looking forward to next season if VAR is still going to be in use - that last minute goal against Utd was a sickener

 

[Twinkletoes123]

British 14 day coronavirus quarantine rules are an unenforceable shambles!
1. ALL travellers arriving at British air, sea and rail ports will have to quarantine themselves for 14 days. This includes British, French and Irish people who have been on holiday in countries OTHER THAN France and Ireland But see below*!)

(How will this be enforced?)

2, The ONLY exceptions will be:

2.1. British, French and Irish people of whatever point of travel origin(!) if they have travelled on any form of transport that has ORIGINATED in France or Ireland.

(*On the face of it, this means that whether or not people are quarantined in Britain depends of whether or not their final mode of transport has started its journey in France or Ireland. So, as an example, If I go on holiday to Spain and take a return flight to Paris, and then change to another flight from there to Britain, I don't have to quarantine! This means that wealthier people who can afford to do this can exempt themselves from the new quarantine rules - whatever the purpose of their journey!)

2.2. Top sportsmen of whatever nationality(?), who are set to compete in competitions such as the premier league.

 

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[Mat70s]

The FA can’t impose a PPG conclusion on the PL. What they’re currently doing is grandstanding trying to bribe the league into accepting the neutral venue solution. The outcome of yesterday’s meeting and the universal rejection of neutral venues at this point, would suggest it didn’t work.

Not sure about PPG but the FA’s main grumble is about relegation and promotions which has been put forward by the bottom set of clubs. I think, whatever happens, teams will get promoted and relegated.

I’m not sure reducing it to grandstanding is a fair description of what’s happening.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Not sure about PPG but the FA’s main grumble is about relegation and promotions which has been put forward by the bottom set of clubs. I think, whatever happens, teams will get promoted and relegated.

I’m not sure reducing it to grandstanding is a fair description of what’s happening.

Without playing the actual games to a conclusion then how will relegation places in the PL be decided?

 

[H.H.]

First of all, a lot of what we have been reading about football coming back has been rumours and fake news so in general only the clubs really know what's actually being discussed.

The longer this horrible situation continues the more I worry that when supporters are finally allowed back into stadiums, many won't have a team to go and support.
For this reason I'm now coming around to thinking that clubs themselves know what's best to be able to get through this and whatever they decide to do to be able to still be there for when supporters finally get back then so be it.