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Steady on... Burnley is way worse than Liverpool.

There was a guy I went to school with moved there for a job. Decent guy if a bit slow. Came back 18 months later a full on member of Combat 18.

Bandit country.
I can vouch for this, I've had a few mates from Burnley and this sounds about right from what they tell me.
 
If the argument is "Football is Safer Than Going To The Supermarket"

How about we make it safe for 60m people to feed themselves before we kick a ball.

It's madness and money driven.
The argument is more about which jobs deserved to be protected more. The violent moron deeney complains he cant get his hair cut so shouldnt be playing football yet neglects to consider the supermarket workers, delivery workers, post workers, etc etc who have been continually working through lockdown.
 

Testing testing testing.

Without it, theres no hope for the restart.

If all players are regularly tested - and that means i'd say at least 3 times a week, ideally more, then it should be a safe environment. Safer than working at the asda, yes but as mentioned, physical contact in football is necessary. Thats the difference between an Asda worker and a footballer in terms of this - they can socially distance (although i realise realistically it doesnt happen all the time.) whereas footballers cant. Asda workers wont be tested though, If 22 men are all tested and negative, there is obviously no danger of the virus being spread or need to socially distance while on the pitch.

Without testing it all falls apart obviously.


Considering how many teams there are in the prem, how many players in each squad, coaching staff etc, refs, linesmen and everyone else who would be involved, that is a lot of testing.
 
Considering how many teams there are in the prem, how many players in each squad, coaching staff etc, refs, linesmen and everyone else who would be involved, that is a lot of testing.

Yes. Without it they can forget about restarting. The pitch has to be a sterile bubble basically - anyone anywhere near it must be negative.

Of course if they have that then it is perfectly safe.
 
All this "boosting moral" argument is balls.

If you put it to the vote
Football or McDonald's/Greggs

Football wouldn't get a look in.

People want to get back to normal and Football in this lockdown has shown us it's not worth dying over.

They are panicking.

I have been watching more and more games from the mid 90s.

The game was so much better and competitive back then, and it cost £10 to get in.

I don't care if it takes years to come back.
Get in up and running when it is safe to return to watch live. And hopefully sort out the VAR garbage and favouritism of the SKY red faves. The longer they are starved of money, the better chance of getting our game back.
 
The argument is more about which jobs deserved to be protected more. The violent moron deeney complains he cant get his hair cut so shouldnt be playing football yet neglects to consider the supermarket workers, delivery workers, post workers, etc etc who have been continually working through lockdown.


1) All the jobs you are listing are necessary for the country to keep going. Football isn't
2) Playing a contact sport where players are deep breathing, in each others faces, and climbing all over each other makes it much more likely that this virus will be transmitted, compared to just standing near someone.
3) Deeney didn't mention it, but its not just the footballers who would be put at risk - Referees, linesman, physios, managers, kit men etc etc are all part of this equation.

edit: and 4) If a player gets the virus and then recovers, it could still affect the rest of their career.
 
1) All the jobs you are listing are necessary for the country to keep going. Football isn't
2) Playing a contact sport where players are deep breathing, in each others faces, and climbing all over each other makes it much more likely that this virus will be transmitted, compared to just standing near someone.
3) Deeney didn't mention it, but its not just the footballers who would be put at risk - Referees, linesman, physios, managers, kit men etc etc are all part of this equation.

And that old chestnut, turn your face away when your tackling.. lol :), I mean you just couldn't make that up.
 

Obviosly supermarket workers come into contact with way more people than footballers do. My annoyance is with the growing number of people who seem to want life to stay on hold, or are using that stance to raise their public profile anyway, until theres a vaccine which seems like a very unlikely proposition. At some point people will have to drop this constant fear thing and have a go at life again.

This is simply not true, supermarket workers don't come into contact (within a reasonable distance) with other people unless they want to. Footballers are face to face at various points of the game and by the end of the match all 22 players have, or through a chain of contact, touched each other.

The hairdresser point is valid as it is another profession where you cannot avoid close contact.
 
This is simply not true, supermarket workers don't come into contact (within a reasonable distance) with other people unless they want to. Footballers are face to face at various points of the game and by the end of the match all 22 players have, or through a chain of contact, touched each other.

The hairdresser point is valid as it is another profession where you cannot avoid close contact.
Right, so supermarket workers dont touch anything in the store that others might have? They dont have to pass people in narrow aisles?
 
1) All the jobs you are listing are necessary for the country to keep going. Football isn't
2) Playing a contact sport where players are deep breathing, in each others faces, and climbing all over each other makes it much more likely that this virus will be transmitted, compared to just standing near someone.
3) Deeney didn't mention it, but its not just the footballers who would be put at risk - Referees, linesman, physios, managers, kit men etc etc are all part of this equation.

edit: and 4) If a player gets the virus and then recovers, it could still affect the rest of their career.
So when should football start again? When should pubs reopen? When are people going to be able to start earning money again? If you expect to wait until theres a vaccine or a miniscule amount of people with it it could easily take years if ever.
 

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