Project restart discussion.

[Toast]

Hearing the Burton chairman on the radio talking about how much testing was going to cost even lower league teams was interesting.
£140k per team, just for testing, would cripple some and that's why they voted to bin the league.
The figures just increase the further up the league's you go.

The weekly league meetings sound like an utter shambles as well with the disagreements.

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

Lad, football is not important at the moment, get over it.

Unless you're waiting for Klopps boys to get going again.

 

[jaycee]

Hearing the Burton chairman on the radio talking about how much testing was going to cost even lower league teams was interesting.
£140k per team, just for testing, would cripple some and that's why they voted to bin the league.
The figures just increase the further up the league's you go.

The weekly league meetings sound like an utter shambles as well with the disagreements.

Think its ridiculous in a pyramid system of leagues that the ones that will suffer the most get abandoned,it was never about integrity and fairness,it was about feeding the rich clubs

 

[Wat Tyler]

Kante another player who refused to train.

But they’re maintaining the “integrity “ of the league, of course.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Kante another player who refused to train.

But they’re maintaining the “integrity “ of the league, of course.

Yes he's just scared of relegation

 

[gonetomorrow]

Deeney seems like a pretty good chap to me. Articulate too which is rare for a soccer player.

I think we should sign him at the earliest possible opportunity.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Think its ridiculous in a pyramid system of leagues that the ones that will suffer the most get abandoned,it was never about integrity and fairness,it was about feeding the rich clubs

the governing bodies of football are only bothered about two clubs in England. If the rest had to go to the wall so that Liverpool and United prosper they wouldn’t bat an eyelid. The amount of money clubs have pumped into getting the premier league started could probably have saved a lower league club or stopped some staff from being furloughed. Is anyone bothered though? No. As long as Liverpool and United’s massive global tv followings keep clicking on stuff and buying stuff then the other 90 teams in the football pyramid can get stuffed.

 

[PITA]

That comment is within the context of a point saying that an infected person doesn't start transmitting the virus within such a short time frame, I can't make that point without hypothetically expressing someone having caught the virus. It goes without saying anyone catching coronavirus is bad in my mind. Football isn't important to me either, I don't support it restarting to complete this season.

With the testing as it is now, I'd support a new league season starting in August. I can't hold that view and on the other hand say it shouldn't restart now, if that's what they want want to do. Again it isn't 'important' to me, that's just my view in the context of the risk based on the information available.

I'm also aware that testing can be wrong. It's been reported to be as high as 30%, which I thought would be the end to project restart. Frustratingly, the Premier League have sourced testing which is proven to be 98.8% accurate. I find it awful, that footballers, who are incredibly low risk, are getting a test which is significantly more accurate than any key worker. A key worker who may have a false result in error, feel better, return to work and pass it on unknowingly.

'Proven' but you accept that false tests happen.

Footballers are 'incredibly low risk' yet 6 players tested positive (if we can trust the results) yesterday.

Give your head a wobble and just accept that there are lies, damn lies and statistics. Always has been and always will be.

100,000 tests done on April 30 because that's what Hancock said would happen. No, 100,000 tests were done because Hancock said that they were. Lies, damn lies and statistics. It's not rocket science.

'that an infected person doesn't start transmitting the virus within such a short time frame'. Imagine that you knew that I had contracted COVID today, would you really play football with me today then gladly go back to your family later on? Really?

 

[WA Toffee]

Here's another point, the heat, its far too hot, too hot to play a decent football, sweat will be dripping off everyone and breathing will be alot harder

yep, all those african, south american and australian players are really going to struggle when it gets up to 20 degrees lol

 

[Pilks]

I dunno. But my simple metric is that Mrs R doesnt get it, I havnt had it. Or, (which isnt entirely impossible), we both had it in January. And didnt know.

This. I still maintain that I (and the missus as well) might well have had it over Christmas. All the symptoms, dry persistent cough, fever, complete exhaustion for a week. Mate of mine was the same. There is a lot of talk about a mysterious 'flu like virus' that so many people had at that time.

 

[Pilks]

So wait, when Arteta was diagnosed positive EVERYTHING shut down immediately in a panic. Yet now six people from the prem is somehow 'great figures'? So, what's the difference between Picture A and Picture B??

 

[USABlue]

So wait, when Arteta was diagnosed positive EVERYTHING shut down immediately in a panic. Yet now six people from the prem is somehow 'great figures'? So, what's the difference between Picture A and Picture B??

I disagree with the restart as well. This is my guess for their rationale with Arteta vs now. When Arteta was diagnosed at the beginning of this there was massive pressure to shut everything globally (sports in the US were similarly canceled when NBA player Rudy Gobert tested positive). Also at the time the duration of how long sports would be on hold was unclear so they probably were fine with a short delay. However as this has dragged out the TV deals are now at risk and the prem/FA dont want to lose out financially. A secondary consideration is also the government being in favor of the restart.

All in all I think they were ok with a short delay initially but its reached the point now where prem/fa they feel the financial gain is worth more than player/staff safety (which I disagree with). Poorer leagues like Belgium and Scotland have ended their seasons. Bundesliga returning gave the Prem the perfect excuse

 

[Joeharper07]

So wait, when Arteta was diagnosed positive EVERYTHING shut down immediately in a panic. Yet now six people from the prem is somehow 'great figures'? So, what's the difference between Picture A and Picture B??

One was at the beginning of the upward cycle which then included a full lockdown to the other being at a part of the downward cycle were lots of workplaces are returning with lots of new measures huge difference

 

[daza_1973]

Souness & Spit on SSN this morning saying what a massive boost yesterday’s test results were. FFS.

SSN - in pushing their own product shocker
- you wouldn't expect anything less.

 

[Chris O'Connor]

One was at the beginning of the upward cycle which then included a full lockdown to the other being at a part of the downward cycle were lots of workplaces are returning with lots of new measures huge difference

This, London hasn't reported a single Covid death in the last 48 hours and with most of the establishment being London based and therefore London centric - the massively reduced risk in the capital will produce a feeling of it's the right time to relax some of the measures.

Other parts of the UK, Scotland Wales and parts of the north of England aren't nearly as very low risk, indeed Scotland is possibly now worse than anywhere.

With neutral grounds proposed, there are now parts of southern and middle England where the risk is very low.