Prostitution - Should We Legalise It?

[Bruce Wayne]

Because I hope my family members can achieve more than selling their bodies to men that they would grow to feel contempt for.

I've nothing against prostitutes, I just don't think the majority would do what they do given an alternative. I'm sure there are a few exceptions to the rule, though.

Just to play devils advocate here Neb, but I noticed you heartily supported the Miss Everton girl, yet amongst the pics that Danny posted up of her were a number of 'glamour' shots. How is that girl not selling her body for mens gratification?

It's a thin line I think, but my personal view is that whilst I wouldn't be happy if a relative chose to get into any such thing, be it full sexual acts or provocative posing, as long as it is a consentual act by those concerned it's not really any of my business.

 

[bigbadjeff]

1) We live in a capitlist society

2) Sex is a commodity which can be sold by women, and men

3) We have the freedom to do with our bodies what we want, if anyone wants to sell themselves, as long as it doesn't impinge on or hurt me let them get on with it. As long as there is no coersion or threats involved.

4) Legalised brothels rather than tolerance zones would be the way to progress in my view.

 

[Nebbiolo]

Sometimes, just sometimes, its a bloke who more often than not, has alcohol in their system and its a spontaneous act. Not pre-meditated in the slighest. To put blunt, few drinks+wanting to get their end away. That can not be disputed.

I'm sorry, Danny. Alcohol in your system does not make a spontaneous rapist. If that is being used as an excuse, and accepted by the judiciary, then we've got problems. I'm a well-known piss artist, and have never, never, felt moved to sexually assault a woman after a night on the pop. What you're talking about is men who are potential rapists and the alcohol gives them the dutch courage to carry out what is almost certainly a festering fantasy.

 

[coyney]

1) We live in a capitlist society .So if you had a daughter who was being manipulated to have sex for cash because we live in a capitalist society you would be happy?

2) Sex is a commodity which can be sold by women, and men true

3) We have the freedom to do with our bodies what we want, if anyone wants to sell themselves, as long as it doesn't impinge on or hurt me let them get on with it. As long as there is no coersion or threats involved. how many ladies of the night are self employed? not many,the pimps take the cash

4) Legalised brothels rather than tolerance zones would be the way to progress in my view.

Who would accept a brothel by their house? even without morality ideas the house value would plummet

 

[Nebbiolo]

Just to play devils advocate here Neb, but I noticed you heartily supported the Miss Everton girl, yet amongst the pics that Danny posted up of her were a number of 'glamour' shots. How is that girl not selling her body for mens gratification?

It's a thin line I think, but my personal view is that whilst I wouldn't be happy if a relative chose to get into any such thing, be it full sexual acts or provocative posing, as long as it is a consentual act by those concerned it's not really any of my business.

Bruce: I gave a number of positions that can be used against legalising brothels, while at the same time suggesting a cautious approach to legalisation might be in our best interests. But if people only want to hear, "yeah let's not consider any position", "make sweeping statements' and "", then fine.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I'm sorry, Danny. Alcohol in your system does not make a spontaneous rapist. If that is being used as an excuse, and accepted by the judiciary, then we've got problems. I'm a well-known piss artist, and have never, never, felt moved to sexually assault a woman after a night on the pop. What you're talking about is men who are potential rapists and the alcohol gives them the dutch courage to carry out what is almost certainly a festering fantasy.

It does not make a spontaneous rapist no, but alcohol can certainly encourage it. Used as an excuse? Not at all but you'll find a good amount of rape cases will include alcohol consumption. In other words, theres definitely a link between rape and alcohol - a figure commonly used is a third, 235 from 677 in Londom from April to May 2005. Again though, alchohol being a predecessor to rape wasn't the point, it was a mere example of a situation which may encourage rape - if an alternative such as a brothel was given, some situations may be avoidable?

I think its wrong to suggest ALL rapists are power driven. The majority yes, but not all.

But fair enough, you think legalising prostitution wont reduce rape at all because they are all power driven? - I think it would because I dont think thats always their main motivation.

 

[Nebbiolo]

It does not make a spontaneous rapist no, but alcohol can certainly encourage it. Used as an excuse? Not at all but you'll find a good amount of rape cases will include alcohol consumption. In other words, theres definitely a link between rape and alcohol - a figure commonly used is a third, 235 from 677 in Londom from April to May 2005. Again though, alchohol being a predecessor to rape wasn't the point, it was a mere example of a situation which may encourage rape - if an alternative such as a brothel was given, some situations may be avoidable?

I think its wrong to suggest ALL rapists are power driven. The majority yes, but not all.

But fair enough, you think legalising prostitution wont reduce rape at all because they are all power driven? - I think it would because I dont think thats always their main motivation.

I'm sceptical of that argument. For it to work, you would have to then propose that all potential rapists would, after a session, make their way to the nearest brothel. I don't believe that would be the case. In reality, most of these men will be cruising for women in pubs and nightclubs. I'm not saying that instances of rape would not be reduced, but I'd be amazed if legalisation made more than a dent in the figures.

 

[bigbadjeff]

Who would accept a brothel by their house? even without morality ideas the house value would plummet

True, but "massage parlours" seem to do all right and judging by the ads in the sport/sunday sport there is a consumer base.

I stated in my statement that i\IF prostitution was carried out without coercion ie pimps then yes I would accept it, but not if it was under duress.

 

[McBain]

Put them in Industrial areas, thats what they do here.

I guess I'm more for it than against it. Its the worlds oldest profession they say, and despite Neb's moral stance can you honestly say you've never been?

The stiff upper lip of the Brit is just a facade, he's as naughty as the rest of us. And besides. have you seen some of the Pornstars available in London for an hour??

Too much?...Carry on

 

[Bundy]

Adultery and fornication are wrong. Why encourage things that are going to break families apart and put society in to more of a moral decline than it already is.

 

[McBain]

Modern society is always in some form of moral decline.

Its the lofty illusion of moral stability that gets continually higher as time passes.

 

[Bundy]

Modern society is always in some form of moral decline.

Its the lofty illusion of moral stability that gets continually higher as time passes.

But why encourage moral decline? I dont want my kids to grow up in some orgy loving world.

 

[gordonjblair]

Has anybody done the "well, it'll give yer ma something to do" gag yet?










oh right, I'll get me coat

 

[McBain]

But why encourage moral decline? I dont want my kids to grow up in some orgy loving world.

Come on, River Pheonix turned out alright....

err...

The world we live in will always be an irrationally uniform place. There will always be a seedy underbelly in the human mind as long as there is a kind hearted one. Its the law of nature and its how we stand against our view of the world is what dictates the next generations views and so on. Men will always want to have relations with women, and the more people on the planet the more varied those relations become.

Who encourages moral decline? I'm sure the modern day trailer trash have their equivalents dotted throughout cultures as far back as Adam.

As a rule modern man has outstripped all other before him with science, art, architecture, his code of morals, and the flip side. His utter contempt for life. When I think society might crumble into a self flagellating heap of sin I won't get too worked up about it. Ive got to work in the morning.

 

[Bundy]

100 yrs ago this wouldn't be accepted, it would be frowned upon, riots and the like. It's wrong every one who reads this will know it's wrong. It may come to a stage where it's socially acceptable and legalised, but it's still wrong, nothing good will ever come from prostituion, some man may feel good for 10 mins but will walk away feeling dirty and ashamed, the woman he has been with will feel cheap and unloved, a piece of meat and if she doesn't it's probably because her feelings have become so numbed from feeling it so often that she could never feel love again.