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Homepage Article Rafael Benitez Appointed Everton Manager

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The fat comments are rich considering how many big guys you see in the crowd at English matches.

But people in the crowd are not trying to manage our football team. Its completely understandable and reasonable for people to ask questions about this. It's going to happen very widely, so we might as well get used to it.
 
Unless something catastrophic goes wrong he will still be here in 3 yeas time.

In China they were only allowed to field 3 foreign players in the starting 11. The goalkeeper had to be Chinese. They didn't follow his instructions and there was mistranslation between Rafas coaching staff and the Chinese interpreters. Dalian were also a recently promoted side who's ambition was to stay i the Premier league. Rafael was brought in to over see their academy and prepare them for the future, where producing homegrown talent was more important that anything else.

Whatever you think of his time in China, its irrelevant.

What's your definition of catastrophically wrong then?

If we dont make progress in points performance, do you think he will see out the 3 years?
 
Unless something catastrophic goes wrong he will still be here in 3 yeas time.

In China they were only allowed to field 3 foreign players in the starting 11. The goalkeeper had to be Chinese. They didn't follow his instructions and there was mistranslation between Rafas coaching staff and the Chinese interpreters. Dalian were also a recently promoted side who's ambition was to stay i the Premier league. Rafael was brought in to over see their academy and prepare them for the future, where producing homegrown talent was more important that anything else.

Whatever you think of his time in China, its irrelevant.
That may all be true , I don't know but the underlying reason for going to China tells us a lot about Benitez.

That is that , in common with Fellaini , Arnoutovic , Oscar and Carasco he went there for the wedge rather than the togger.

Nothing illegal or immoral but don't kid us that football is an obsession for him.
 
He’s managing the team, not playing. His weight is irrelevant.

Well his weight is going to affect how effectively he can deliver training. Most of the fans can see that hence why comments are, and will continue to be made.

I dont know what that has to do with people watching the team. But I suppose for some people it's ok to poke fun at spectators in being overweight, but not the professionals who represent a sports team. All very strange.

I hope he is able to competently provide training sessions. We will soon see if he is.
 

Koeman had an arrogance about him I found difficult to take to. He was cold and aloof, and his managerial appointments appear to be based more on what he did as a player than any managerial merit.

He did an OK job at Southampton, but I wasn't overly keen on his appointment, having been aware of his troubles at Valencia. He was managing there when we tried to sign Manuel Fernandes and there were regular reports of him falling out with players, including Fernandes himself who sought refuge by coming back here on loan only 5 months later.

But on the other hand, he did have experience, both in the Premier League and at several big European clubs, so I gave him the benefit of the doubt, especially as he had the aforementioned big name and maybe that may bring us some sort of credibility.

But once he arrived, I didn't like or appreciate his approach in the slightest.

First of all, there was the insistence on keeping us waiting, by going on holiday, not once, but twice. Instantly starting off on the wrong foot, it felt very much like he was taking the role under duress rather than any genuine desire to be here. I'm sure the money offered and the massaging of his giant ego didn't hurt.

And then there was his actual approach. For all of Martinez flaws, he was a likeable character and he at least tried to do things the right way. He failed because he was stubborn. But Koemans idea was not to take stock and work out what we needed, but to implement a complete 180 on anything associated with Martinez. Rather than acknowledge what we had and build on it, he gutted the whole thing. It needed tweaking, but instead he arrogantly did everything he could to undermine his predecessor and as the saying goes, threw the baby out with the bath water.

He quickly got rid of any player associated with Martinez, and set about cobbling together an average bunch of older, overpriced players with zero sell on value in an attempt at the quick fix solution. He had no strategy other than proving that his ideas were the opposite of what had failed previously and he wasn't shy in telling people. His treatment of Niasse, whether you liked him as a player or not, was horrendous for anyone, let alone a so called professional.

His transfer strategy, if you can call it that, was to spend £85m in 1 summer on 5 players who essentially played the same position, a position for which we already had Barkley and an up and coming Keiron Dowell, then proceeded to throw them all under the bus by playing several of them out of position and dropping some of the others completely. And if reports are to be believed, he vetoed a number of suggestions given to him by Steve Walsh in favour of people he already had in mind. Given half the players we signed had either played for him previously or he had already wanted for Southampton, I tend to believe it was probably true.

All in all, he refused to embrace the club, as evidenced by his refusal to move to the city. Unlike his brother, who at least came across like he wanted to be here. It was clear he saw us as nothing but a lucrative stopping point on his way to something he actually wanted to do. His failure was inevitable.

On to Bemitez, I get the impression that he genuinely wants this job. Maybe it is because he already has a home here, maybe because we pay good money and are an established Premier League club that looks good on the CV, I don't know. But what I do know is, in spite of all that, he has more than enough reasons not to take it, not least of all threatening messages outside his family home. If nothing else, you have to admire the sheer bloody mindedness in taking a job that he knows, is not going to be widely accepted.

He said some things a long time ago. It was silly and impudent, and said in the heat of the moment, while managing a rival. But for all the lack of respect that he may have showed, he still didn't say anything as disrespectful as things some of our previous managers have said during and after their time here (ahem, Moyes).

I get the impression that he is desperate to be successful here because his character appears to be someone who is hell bent on proving people wrong.

It's too early to say at the moment, but he is at least saying the right things, and appears to be treating us with more respect than some of the people who came before. And I think its only fair that we do the same until proved otherwise.
You don't like the cold, aloof, arrogant Koeman but you're sound with cold, aloof, arrogant Benitez. I'm not sure I'm following the argument.
 
Well his weight is going to affect how effectively he can deliver training. Most of the fans can see that hence why comments are, and will continue to be made.

I dont know what that has to do with people watching the team. But I suppose for some people it's ok to poke fun at spectators in being overweight, but not the professionals who represent a sports team. All very strange.

I hope he is able to competently provide training sessions. We will soon see if he is.
Does he have to run about to take training sessions or something? People aren’t worried about whether he can take training, the comments are simply because they don’t like him.

I can’t remember you or anyone else being concerned that Carlo couldn’t do his job because he’s a bit overweight.

It tells you a lot about his mindset and professionalism.

Everything I’ve heard about him says he’s an exceptionally hard worker. He sounds like a complete professional and I don’t see how his weight affects that.
 

Unless something catastrophic goes wrong he will still be here in 3 yeas time.

In China they were only allowed to field 3 foreign players in the starting 11. The goalkeeper had to be Chinese. They didn't follow his instructions and there was mistranslation between Rafas coaching staff and the Chinese interpreters. Dalian were also a recently promoted side who's ambition was to stay i the Premier league. Rafael was brought in to over see their academy and prepare them for the future, where producing homegrown talent was more important that anything else.

Whatever you think of his time in China, its irrelevant.
Lol, China doesn't count. We'll worked argument.
 
You don't like the cold, aloof, arrogant Koeman but you're sound with cold, aloof, arrogant Benitez. I'm not sure I'm following the argument.
That probably because that wasn't the argument.

Personally, I don't get that from Benitez, certainly not yet, and from what I've found, it's not something often labelled at Benitez. He appears to come across as quite serious, single minded, but not an arrogant bully who doesn't have a plan and always appears like he's lowering himself to be here.

It seems to me you are attaching negative personality traits to him because you don't like him. Most likely because he dared to manage Liverpool before he came here.
 

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