2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[nsno-chris]

Who? Be realistic.

Lucien Favre
Ralf Rangnick
Marcelo Gallardo

Off the top of my head

 

[toffee matt]

Let’s not pretend Benitez has caused toxicity among fans.

We’ve been toxic since Martinez.

The last few seasons under Moyes weren’t exactly harmonious.

 

[Fansince1988]

Lucien Favre
Ralf Rangnick
Marcelo Gallardo

Off the top of my head

TBH I don’t think they would fair any better, even the so called legend Ancelotti struggled with this lot, the problem is the squad. First best 11 is decent and when we had them fit Benitez was doing a good job, 4 Or 5 out and the wheels have come off. Iwobi, Davies (I always liked him but he’s gone backwards in the last year or so) Rondon, Holgate just to name a few just aren’t good enough to cover for the injured players. IMO no one could do any good at Everton atm who we have available to play. 4 decent players is a must in jan.

 

[MikeH72]

Let’s not pretend Benitez has caused toxicity among fans.

We’ve been toxic since Moshiri.

Fixed.

This isn’t a coincidence either.

 

[Theoneandonly]

He definitely has though. Saying anything otherwise is ridiculous.

A large portion of the fan base despises him. We've had doubts over other managers but the only one I remember being this unpopular before a ball was kicked was Allardyce.

A large part of Internet fans who are toxic about anything.

The vast majority of fans want to give him time.

 

[Toffeelover]

A large part of Internet fans who are toxic about anything.

The vast majority of fans want to give him time.

The clock is ticking. How many more defeats?

 

[Theoneandonly]

Lucien Favre
Ralf Rangnick
Marcelo Gallardo

Off the top of my head

Gallardo is a God in South America. Doesn't speak any English and no one in Europe is taking a punt on him. He's an unknown quantity.

Favre was close to joining Palace in the Summer, took one look at their squad and backed out because the job was too big, I imagine he would do the same with us.

Rangnick hasn't managed outside Germany and is now a sporting director. He has idolised by people who think he is a good talent spotter. Again he's an unknown quantity and is seemingly out of management.

 

[carolinablue232]

At some point it’s not the manager. It’s the players and the totally obvious lack of any squad depth. We all said at the beginning of the season we had a solid first 11 with a couple spots still needing upgrades and that our depth/bench was tragic. We started great, had key injuries, and now we’re seeing the results of that depth. Changing managers wouldn’t fix the problem that we can’t survive any first team injuries. Fix the root of the problem and stop hiding behind the manager.

 

[Theoneandonly]

The clock is ticking. How many more defeats?

Truthfully he needs at least the January transfer window to try and move on some more deadwood and bring some players in.

Rafas teams are notorious for improving massively in the 2nd half of the season.

We have a difficult run coming up, but if we're still around mid table, he should be more than fine.

 

[bag a yoko]

The last few seasons under Moyes weren’t exactly harmonious.

Yeah. Basically since internet chat rooms were a thing...

 

[Toast]

Yeah. Basically since internet chat rooms were a thing...

Getting on the soccerbus and then the train home is brilliant for hearing fans views.
It’s proper old school discussion and the odd spat.
Love it.

 

[Toast]

Truthfully he needs at least the January transfer window to try and move on some more deadwood and bring some players in.

Rafas teams are notorious for improving massively in the 2nd half of the season.

We have a difficult run coming up, but if we're still around mid table, he should be more than fine.

You know, when he goes, I hope your leaving thread is epic.

 

[nsno-chris]

Gallardo is a God in South America. Doesn't speak any English and no one in Europe is taking a punt on him. He's an unknown quantity.

Favre was close to joining Palace in the Summer, took one look at their squad and backed out because the job was too big, I imagine he would do the same with us.

Rangnick hasn't managed outside Germany and is now a sporting director. He has idolised by people who think he is a good talent spotter. Again he's an unknown quantity and is seemingly out of management.

And all our better than Rafata

make of that what you will

 

[Toffeemeister]

TBH I don’t think they would fair any better, even the so called legend Ancelotti struggled with this lot, the problem is the squad. First best 11 is decent and when we had them fit Benitez was doing a good job, 4 Or 5 out and the wheels have come off. Iwobi, Davies (I always liked him but he’s gone backwards in the last year or so) Rondon, Holgate just to name a few just aren’t good enough to cover for the injured players. IMO no one could do any good at Everton atm who we have available to play. 4 decent players is a must in jan.

100% this. We need to focus on better signings rather than throwing every manager under the bus.

 

[Marius57]

A large part of Internet fans who are toxic about anything.

The vast majority of fans want to give him time.

How can you even say that though? You literally have zero idea what the majority of fans are thinking.

A large part (ie majority) of Internet fans want him gone. They are the ones whose opinions you actually have. Any suggestion of those whose opinions you don't have, is purely speculation on your part.

He was being booed by travelling fans on Monday. So it's not just Internet fans who want him gone.