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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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ForeverBlue92 said:
90% of people who dislike Benitez from the get go do so based on that comment. Its not just the LFC connection as plenty on here like Rodgers who was arguably more smarmy as manager there than Benitez was.

And the comment itself wasn't even aimed at Everton it was a dig at Moyes tactics that derby game.

Was certainly sour apples but most trophy winning managers at that time carried on like that - Wenger was the worst going for it.
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The hatred is more because he won stuff with them. He is one of their legends (or was anyway, dunno what they think of him now).

He is on banners in the kop and they had him dancing around on stage in plays etc.

Nobody has any real strong opinions about Rodgers because he didn't win anything with them and was a bit of a comedy character there because his weirdness was ultra magnified with their weirdo fans behind him. Rodgers isn't mainly known as being Liverpool manager whereas Benitez is/was synonymous with them.
 
Whilst I am here I would like to voice my displeasure at the utter lack of respect that Eddie Howe receives. He did a ridiculously good job at Bournemouth. I don't know if he is someone I would go for or anything but he is obviously a bit of talent. Up 4 divisions and into top flight regulars even with a sabbatical in the middle for a club who are traditionally no bigger than say Tranmere.
 
Papa Shango said:
The hatred is more because he won stuff with them. He is one of their legends (or was anyway, dunno what they think of him now).

He is on banners in the kop and they had him dancing around on stage in plays etc.

Nobody has any real strong opinions about Rodgers because he didn't win anything with them and was a bit of a comedy character there because his weirdness was ultra magnified with their weirdo fans behind him. Rodgers isn't mainly known as being Liverpool manager whereas Benitez is/was synonymous with them.
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Which shows how insecure we are as a fanbase when it comes to them tbh.

Could you imagine how much they would have loved rubbing it in having Kendall or any EFC legend cross the divide over to Anfield.

Even if they aint arsed as they have Klopp it at least sours his legacy with them somewhat if he makes a decent go of it here if given time and money.
 
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ForeverBlue92 said:
Which shows how insecure we are as a fanbase when it comes to them tbh.

Could you imagine how much they would have loved rubbing it in having Kendall or any EFC legend cross the divide over to Anfield.

Even if they aint arsed as they have Klopp it at least sours his legacy with them somewhat if he makes a decent go of it here given time and money.
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It's not really insecurity, 30 odd years of abject nothingness can get to people.

I think the main difference is they would never have appointed a Kendall or an ex Everton manager. They know there would be uproar and said manager would be doomed. We have only appointed Benitez because of perceived desperation, you have said it yourself, someone to steady the ship for a couple of years.

I don't think he will be getting either time or money by the looks of it which is mad really when you look at it.

One way or another this upcoming derby game is going to be massive. I may go away and sit on top of a mountain or something whilst its happening.
 

Gareth Gibson said:
We are still in the top 10 and we have just two fewer points than we had at this stage last season - and we had the most decorated manager in history at the helm!

Benitez spent just £2million in the summer and he has had extraordinary luck with injuries. We have missed DCL and Doucoure particularly acutely in recent weeks. Even the likes of Man City wouldn’t thrive if they were without their top goalscorer and their best midfielder for weeks.

If R.A.F.A. can’t arrest this slide within the next 5 or 6 weeks and it looks like we will be at risk of relegation then of course we will have to consider a change, but I can’t see that being the case. This is a long-term project. Only rich clubs like Chelsea can get away with changing their managers every other season.
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Sensible post overall, but let’s not use the relegation word just yet. Or ever. There’s no way we’ll ever face the threat of relegation under Benitez, no matter how unlucky we get with injuries.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
90% of people who dislike Benitez from the get go do so based on that comment. Its not just the LFC connection as plenty on here like Rodgers who was arguably more smarmy as manager there than Benitez was.

And the comment itself wasn't even aimed at Everton it was a dig at Moyes tactics that derby game.

Was certainly sour apples but most trophy winning managers at that time carried on like that - Wenger was the worst going for it.
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THAT Comment didnt help in anyway but I'm not sure you can level that at 90%, mainly for me, its a Red and Blue thing, always will be.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
Which shows how insecure we are as a fanbase when it comes to them tbh.

Could you imagine how much they would have loved rubbing it in having Kendall or any EFC legend cross the divide over to Anfield.

Even if they aint arsed as they have Klopp it at least sours his legacy with them somewhat if he makes a decent go of it here if given time and money.
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They would never have even considered Howard Kendall, never in a million years, and I'm pretty confident that Howard would never once have considered that lot!

I'm not sure you are getting the rivalry and tribalism thing!
 
Papa Shango said:
Whilst I am here I would like to voice my displeasure at the utter lack of respect that Eddie Howe receives. He did a ridiculously good job at Bournemouth. I don't know if he is someone I would go for or anything but he is obviously a bit of talent. Up 4 divisions and into top flight regulars even with a sabbatical in the middle for a club who are traditionally no bigger than say Tranmere.
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I like Eddie Howe. And I’ll say this to be bookmarked:

He’ll take that rag tag bunch of no hopers who get no more than 30% possession and he’ll turn them into a team that dominate the ball and win football matches - all before he signs a player.
 
Caolam said:
We don’t let players go too cheaply, we pay too much for them, pay them too much and create our own problem when we try to get rid of them. We need to sort out our transfer policy, we seem to identify players we want and then lose them because we won’t pay market value and then find ourselves in a position where we buy lesser players for inflated prices and have to give them a wage which they don’t deserve.
I would rather pay over the odds for a good player we want rather than pay way over the odds on a panic buy.
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Maybe we should get a DOF , he/she could be in charge of buying and selling players and keeping a finger on the pulse of any up and coming players and managers.
Daft idea I know but I believe it's quite common with European teams.
 
Papa Shango said:
Whilst I am here I would like to voice my displeasure at the utter lack of respect that Eddie Howe receives. He did a ridiculously good job at Bournemouth. I don't know if he is someone I would go for or anything but he is obviously a bit of talent. Up 4 divisions and into top flight regulars even with a sabbatical in the middle for a club who are traditionally no bigger than say Tranmere.
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Totally agree, it’s very weird. Bournemouth had literally never been on the radar during my 40 years on earth until Howe.

When they got promoted to the prem he never got a huge budget to improve the team but kept them up and tried to play a good style of football. Didn’t brick himself and go full Tony Pullis, Dyche etc who would have you believe the only way for promoted teams with little money to survive is to camp on the edge of the penalty box and try to score set pieces.

Did an unbelievable job for them.
 

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