2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[h8kurdt]

potter ticks all the boxes for me.

You've seen how Brighton are doing at the moment, right? And that's with the players he's wanted. What makes you think he'd do any better with the Everton squad?

 

[Marius57]

How many Champions League winning managers are sacked 12 games into the job at a mid-table club mate?

Not enough if you ask me

 

[tommye]

How far do we have to fall (for the Benitez backers) before you think he should be sacked?

The lure of the Championship with the promise of a, somebody hold me a minute, Play Off Final to whet our appetites is the Promised Land sought by some

 

[Peter The Dog]

You've seen how Brighton are doing at the moment, right? And that's with the players he's wanted. What makes you think he'd do any better with the Everton squad?

he is forward-thinking. very focused on changing the mind sets of players.

 

[Efcjake]

Well I for one out 'that lot' am done with making appeals for You Lot to get behind the team whatever manager they have.

Your hatred for the man is beyond any reach. It's visceral and rabid.

He had to change peoples' minds with results dave. It was the only thing that would do it.

He's failed, big time.

 

[Yarrgh]

Nobody is getting off scot-free, Dave's just seeing what he wants to see. As per.

True dat. He's chumming the water to agitate the sharks. This thread's gonna blow real soon.

 

[Theoneandonly]

He beat Liverpool (and drew twice in the other 2 league games), Chelsea, Arsenal, Leicester, Spurs (twice).

He also got 59 points. That is the benchmark for Benitez.

But you want him gone now without giving him the season, then say 59 points is the benchmark. If that's the case, then wait until the end of the season before damning everything he does.

If he gets 10th, which is equal to last season, but doesn't get 59 points will you say he failed?

 

[Efcjake]

But you want him gone now without giving him the season, then say 59 points is the benchmark. If that's the case, then wait until the end of the season before damning everything he does.

If he gets 10th, which is equal to last season, but doesn't get 59 points will you say he failed?

Yes, if he gets less points than last year then he's done a worse job of it.

Fact is, we are up a creek without a paddle under him. He looks absolutely clueless. 1 win in 9 is shocking form.

 

[tommye]

Your hatred for the man is beyond any reach. It's visceral and rabid

And?

 

[Tubey]

My opinion on Benitez hasn't altered so far, not even slightly. I haven't seen a single positive thing from him in thus far that an Allardyce wouldn't of been able to deliver just as (if not more) effectively.

That'd be because absolutely any manager would have the exact same issues. Anyone. You could throw Guardiola or Klopp in the job and they'd have nothing to work with.

 

[gazzaa2]

The job he did has to be judged in context, though. Their star was on his last legs due to injuries, and they were in full rebuild mode. It's far less of a gamble than giving guys like Arteta and Lampard their first jobs, or plucking OGS out of Norway after he was relegated in his only Prem job.

I agree that we would likely not be thrilled with a Pochettino appointment back then, but then we have the revenue to not have to fish in the pond Southampton was fishing in as a club looking for a new manager bounce to stave off relegation. We, of course, would turn around and hire a relegated manager that had just lifted the FA Cup to replace Moyes.

So another Premier League club had took the gamble to bring him in first.

The bigger clubs tend to take a gamble if it's a popular ex-player. Arteta was also linked with the Everton job (Arsenal and Everton jobs came up around the same time). Lampard a Chelsea legend, they wouldn't have made an appointment like that otherwise. Same with Ole and United.

Even Villa getting Gerrard is a gamble, given he's only managed in a weak Scottish league.

 

[LEONARD]

The Titanic would still have sunk, with Hirathio Nelson at the helm.

Our club is currently beyond a mere mortal manager.

 

[COYBL25]

Well I for one out 'that lot' am done with making appeals for You Lot to get behind the team whatever manager they have.

Your hatred for the man is beyond any reach. It's visceral and rabid.

Your next Moyes, you ginger walloper.

West Ham = garbage....and Moyes has turned into a 'kin whale.

He's a dullard who'll win nothing and only offer sterile football and safety each season...well, we get safety each season anyway...since the early 1950s.

Martinez used them to play football...association football, not the Gaelic football Moyes used them for.

He's won more than Moyes ever will.

Martinez is a cup winner and Belgium's greatest ever manager; Moyes has won f.a. and is famous for destroying the greatest club in PL history in one single season.

Rather have Alardyce back than Moyes.

Visceral meet rabid.

Then pot meet kettle and then meet black.

And that`s only a small selection of this months gems on Moyes.lol

 

[Efcjake]

That'd be because absolutely any manager would have the exact same issues. Anyone. You could throw Guardiola or Klopp in the job and they'd have nothing to work with.

You're trying to tell us that nobody could get a defence of Coleman, Keane, Godfrey and Digne to stop shipping multiple goals each week?

Ancelotti did it just fine.

CBA with this nonsense argument that Benitez is somehow simultaneously the greatest manager we can hope to attract yet also holds 0 responsibility for our terrible results.

He's proper Allardyce, from the prehistoric footy to the arrogant attitude. Oh but he won a fluked Champions League nearly 20 years ago so we need to give him time to lose more matches.

 

[tommye]

Visceral meet rabid.

Then pot meet kettle and then meet black.

And that`s only a small selection of this months gems on Moyes.lol

Reach a bit further back and there's some absolute gems about the Pigman. Ain't hard to find either