2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[Efcjake]

This is thrown at Jose as well, being a manager stuck in the past.

He didn't really change any minds about that at Utd or Spurs did he?

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

His win percentage was horrendous. To pretend that because he came 8th he did better than carlo is ludicrous. 49 points and 8th shows how poor that season was. Carlo came 10th with 10 extra points, which in all but one of the previous 20 seasons would have got top 8, and sometimes top 4.

Even if you compare the season he "saved us" and the half season carlo had when we were in a worse position to when Sam took over, he averaged less points than carlo got.

Allardyce won 34 points from 24 games after spending 40m
Carlo got 30 from 20 after spending 0.

Allardyce was complete anti football. I think we went around 4 games without having a shot on target in the Christmas period.

 

[Efcjake]

Yes, does he get credit from you for Townsend and Gray?

Own that.

Neither of them have looked great this past two months along with the rest of the team.

 

[Ghost Rider]

He didn't really change any minds about that at Utd or Spurs did he?

Yeah that's the point I mean. He carries that label now despite also bringing a measure of success with him, just never at the same level you would expect with his name.

So bluetoff mentioning it about benitez could be a valid criticism of him. After all he did go to China.

 

[Efcjake]

Don't really get the relevance there mate? We drew with Spurs who just appointed Antonio Conte.

The point is you can't go Ah well we just drew against Spurs as if it was a massive achievement. They were bereft of confidence and had just sacked a manager. It's not the achievement it was being thrown up there as.

 

[Gilbert..]

Yes, does he get credit from you for Townsend and Gray?

Own that.

Yes. Go check those threads. Even mentioned it in this one.
Its you that cant accept it. You want everyone kissing his arse and not accountable for anything.
We've actualy turned into newcastle fcking united.

 

[peteblue]

Yes, does he get credit from you for Townsend and Gray?

Own that.

No mate, he gets no credit for bringing in two excellent players who cost an absolute arm and a leg and bankrupted the club while breaking all of the fair play rules…..

 

[ForeverBlue92]

His win percentage was horrendous. To pretend that because he came 8th he did better than carlo is ludicrous. 49 points and 8th shows how poor that season was. Carlo came 10th with 10 extra points, which in all but one of the previous 20 seasons would have got top 8, and sometimes top 4.

Even if you compare the season he "saved us" and the half season carlo had when we were in a worse position to when Sam took over, he averaged less points than carlo got.

Allardyce won 34 points from 24 games after spending 40m
Carlo got 30 from 20 after spending 0.

This was the team Alladyce had at Anfield:

Pickford

Kenny Williams Holgate Martina

Siggurdsson Gana Davies Rooney

DCL Niasse

To get 8th with that side was a miracle - pound for pound done the best job since Moyes in terms of the side he had to work with NEA.

 

[d34noj]

It's actually funny because if you compare Benitez's managerial profile with other non top 6 sides in the Premier League, we clearly have the best manager in the league outside of the top 6.

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

Quite clearly.

 

[d34noj]

They backed him because he had us competing for Europe until the last few matches of the season. Your rewriting of history is just farcical.

We never once looked at the relegation zone like we are now under him.

We were 2nd on Boxing Day, breathing down Liverpools neck - 3 points off IIRC

 

[Efcjake]

We were 2nd on Boxing Day, breathing down Liverpools neck - 3 points off IIRC

Oh no we were horrible and flirting with relegation like we are with Benitez and he never got an ounce of criticism....


Or at least that's the version of history @4737carlin and @ForeverBlue92 tell us

 

[d34noj]

I dont think he is but under these circumstances i dont hink anyone can

His treatment of King was a disgrace, 11 times he came on for us and 7 of those was less then 10 minutes, it was disgusting, i dont think he even started him once, he should be our player right now, not Rondon

Are you blaming us signing Rondon on Ancelotti??

 

[toffee matt]

He’s got the same number as wins (4) as Silva did at this stage in the season he was sacked

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Oh no we were horrible and flirting with relegation like we are with Benitez and he never got an ounce of criticism....


Or at least that's the version of history @4737carlin and @ForeverBlue92 tell us

Yet finished 10th with 1 win in 8.

Maybe Benitez finishes this season as strongly as Carlo started his?

You'll only find out if you drop the #agenda and give the fella a chance when his best players are back from injury.

 

[Marius57]

This was the team Alladyce had at Anfield:

Pickford

Kenny Williams Holgate Martina

Siggurdsson Gana Davies Rooney

DCL Niasse

To get 8th with that side was a miracle - pound for pound done the best job since Moyes in terms of the side he had to work with NEA.

You clearly are though, or you wouldn't keep banging on about it.