2021/22 Rafael Benitez

[davek]

All this is purely down to Benitez having been manager of the RS, if he had never been at them and had won what he has with say MUFC or Chelski then we wouldnt even be having these debates. Please bare in mind Demerai Gray is a Benitez signing (told so by DG himself in a preseason interview) and DG has been involved in more goals this season than Jack Grealish who cost over 50 times more! I was starting to get concerned about the Managerial position however I am of the opinion that Benitez deserves respect for what he has done in the game and also we have tried everything else. Give him a go, get Goodison rocking every game not just when the VAR gets involved and look what happens! All the players interviewed after the game Keane, Coleman, Gray, Pickford, Gordon and the manager all said how having the fans behind them helped. Look at the players posts on social media all stating the fans were brilliant and made a difference. It won't happen any time soon because evidence of the ship turning is required and the team to do something but I am certain that one day the fans will be singing his name one day. He remains very calm and collected on the touchline before, during and at 90 minutes but on one video (tunnel access on youtube) Benitez is walking at the side of the pitch after the fans of gone and you can clearly see how happy he is, give the bloke a chance and maybe just maybe we will get somewhere.

This with bells on.

 

[BlueToff]

And we've said that for the last 5-6 years and each time the manager whoever it is ends up failing here.

At some point you have to let someone come in and shake things up.

because they've appointed poor managers? Bar Ancelotti, who I wouldn't say was a failure in the whole sense. He just up and left.

 

[BlueToff]

This with bells on.

No it's not. It's because he's arrogant, divisive and not very good.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

Kin’ell, again

This is twice in a week, if you’re going to use a term then please learn how to spell it

You're not the one that should be giving spelling advice. Still 'routing' for Everton I suppose, I can't tell...

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

What choice do we have? The protests were a damp squid, Moshiri has given full control to the manager.

You either get behind the manager and hope for the best or live a half life existence like Kevin The Rat et al who can't even enjoy a dramatic injury time winner anymore.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Honestly mate, you talk more sense than most, but you need to let this James thing go.

If anything, the James decision is the one thing Benitez has done which makes sense. Our top earning player who has a poor fitness record, couldn't/wouldn't run and was a defensively liability wherever he was in the side. Yes, he had talent in spades and on the ball he was a joy to watch, but there were a lot more negatives about him than positives. The crux of it is, even if nobody's going to let it go, he's ended up in Qatar. If he was potentially as good/useful as people say, he wouldn't be there, another European club would have taken him. We can reminisce about his talent in years to come because he had more natural ability than almost anyone I've ever seen in an Everton shirt before, but this one is not on Benitez.

EDIT - It also wasn't our worst ever derby defeat at Goodison. Google Glenn Keeley

When you have been watching us this season, have you been thinking our creative attacking play is brilliant, splitting defences left right and centre?

 

[Kev50]

That sums it up nicely.

Can you imagine the risk of another manager in this club right now? That really would be playong with fire.

As you say, the players recognise the manager is a force in the club after just 6 months into his appointment: he's seen off Brands, the club doctor, and an errant player who thinks he can rebel without ramifications for him; he's sidelined Kenwright and DBB, and he looks in lock step with the owner. The anarcho-syndicalist movement in the coaching staff are on the run.

It's needed this at Everton. Maybe Moshiri's insistence on bringing Benitez in is the biggest and only decision he's got right so far.

I don't even think daft arse was involved. this decision came from higher up.

 

[davek]

I don't even think daft arse was involved. this decision came from higher up.

Uzmanov knows what a strong man looks like.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

We've tried the world class Carlo

The young and progressive Martinez & Silva

The steady eddie Alladyce (who fans hated)

The flavour of the month Koeman

It seems that in your head head head head that we have gone for world class, progressive, steady Eddie, Benitez.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

because they've appointed poor managers? Bar Ancelotti, who I wouldn't say was a failure in the whole sense. He just up and left.

But no top level manager is coming here mate certainly not until the finances have improved!

Its too early to conclude how Benitez will do here - 12th in the table isn't ideal but no DCL for 90% of the season and numerous injuries to key players im going to wait and judge at the end of the season.

If we finish 8th-12th he's done no worse than what we expected realistically.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

All this is purely down to Benitez having been manager of the RS, if he had never been at them and had won what he has with say MUFC or Chelski then we wouldnt even be having these debates. Please bare in mind Demerai Gray is a Benitez signing (told so by DG himself in a preseason interview) and DG has been involved in more goals this season than Jack Grealish who cost over 50 times more! I was starting to get concerned about the Managerial position however I am of the opinion that Benitez deserves respect for what he has done in the game and also we have tried everything else. Give him a go, get Goodison rocking every game not just when the VAR gets involved and look what happens! All the players interviewed after the game Keane, Coleman, Gray, Pickford, Gordon and the manager all said how having the fans behind them helped. Look at the players posts on social media all stating the fans were brilliant and made a difference. It won't happen any time soon because evidence of the ship turning is required and the team to do something but I am certain that one day the fans will be singing his name one day. He remains very calm and collected on the touchline before, during and at 90 minutes but on one video (tunnel access on youtube) Benitez is walking at the side of the pitch after the fans of gone and you can clearly see how happy he is, give the bloke a chance and maybe just maybe we will get somewhere.

That and the absolute managerial pie in the face that he has served up this season.

 

[GraemeS1980]

That and the absolute managerial pie in the face that he has served up this season.

With £1.7m spent? The reasoning is the players he can pick (slightly due to injuries) has left him with tripe like Iwobi. This isnt on Benitez this is due to inept management for at least the last six years.

 

[BlueToff]

But no top level manager is coming here mate certainly not until the finances have improved!

Its too early to conclude how Benitez will do here - 12th in the table isn't ideal but no DCL for 90% of the season and numerous injuries to key players im going to wait and judge at the end of the season.

If we finish 8th-12th he's done no worse than what we expected realistically.

Like I said, Galtier was interested. He's better than Benitez.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

With £1.7m spent? The reasoning is the players he can pick (slightly due to injuries) has left him with tripe like Iwobi. This isnt on Benitez this is due to inept management for at least the last six years.

We were top of the league around this time last year with basically the same team minus James but plus Gray and Townsend. It's a poor effort. ?

 

[Papa Shango]

All this is purely down to Benitez having been manager of the RS, if he had never been at them and had won what he has with say MUFC or Chelski then we wouldnt even be having these debates. Please bare in mind Demerai Gray is a Benitez signing (told so by DG himself in a preseason interview) and DG has been involved in more goals this season than Jack Grealish who cost over 50 times more! I was starting to get concerned about the Managerial position however I am of the opinion that Benitez deserves respect for what he has done in the game and also we have tried everything else. Give him a go, get Goodison rocking every game not just when the VAR gets involved and look what happens! All the players interviewed after the game Keane, Coleman, Gray, Pickford, Gordon and the manager all said how having the fans behind them helped. Look at the players posts on social media all stating the fans were brilliant and made a difference. It won't happen any time soon because evidence of the ship turning is required and the team to do something but I am certain that one day the fans will be singing his name one day. He remains very calm and collected on the touchline before, during and at 90 minutes but on one video (tunnel access on youtube) Benitez is walking at the side of the pitch after the fans of gone and you can clearly see how happy he is, give the bloke a chance and maybe just maybe we will get somewhere.

There are obvious questions to be asked about his recent record and also the type of manager he is for the position we are in.

Of course it is all down to him being manager of the RS mainly though.

The thing I never understand when people say this. So what if the reason people hate him is because he is a RS legend? It is a perfectly valid reason to hate him.

I can understand people saying his past shouldn't matter, however I can also totally understand those who it does matter to. It is supposed to matter.

I am pretty "meh" about the whole thing but I think even that has came from the club losing "something" to me when we appointed him in the first place.

It should matter.