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2021/22 Rafael Benitez

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davek said:
Ridiculous claims based on those.

Goals scored from set pieces down...do you think our best header of the ball who scored most of the 14 all last season not being available for all but 3 ganes had something to do with less goals being scored from feee kicks? Maybe?

As for goals conceded from set pieces, we are not rock bottom we are on 7 making us 13th in the league (and the absence of DCL from our own box impacts that) compared to 13 conceded making us 8th in the league.

You cant even read your own stats.
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I read the stats perfectly fine. I just didn't add a spiel of interpretation to them to fit an agenda.

I presented the numbers, and you can interpret them that way if you want. I am not happy with a 2:1 positive record become a 3:1 negative record. That's schoolboy stuff in my opinion. And yes that is my interpretation of the statisitics, since you gave yours.
 
Parker NSNO said:
Come on Dave mate we both know that not a single person on this forum, yourself included, has any idea of what the Chinese league is like other than the fact its where players and managers go for a payday.
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It imploded in his time there. That is a verifiable fact.
 

ToffeeTim said:
I read the stats perfectly fine. I just didn't add a spiel of interpretation to them to fit an agenda.

I presented the numbers, and you can interpret them that way if you want. I am not happy with a 2:1 positive record become a 3:1 negative record. That's schoolboy stuff in my opinion. And yes that is my interpretation of the statisitics, since you gave yours.
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You MISREPRESENTED the numbers.
 
Eggs said:
….i recall being regularly told it was only the injuries holding us back, we have a very decent team when everybody is fit. There’ll always be one or two injuries and/or suspensions, the best managers cope.

I’m genuinely surprised at how poorly the team is being managed. We played a Palace team coming off the back of 3 defeats, yet the clear tactics was to allow them possession, consolidate and not concede; No press, instead forwards drop into their own half. No tempo.

Everton have won more points from a losing position than any other team in the PL. it’s a major stat as it shows we are poorly set-up and organised at the start of games. There is no getting away from that. We are more effective when we go behind & have to play more positively.

Only a very stubborn man would continue down a path that doesn’t work. This team/squad is better than most in the league, we are poorly coached.
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Exactly this. A few injuries would not impact all our results, certainly not Watford, Brentford or Palace. Jaffa needs to go, the sooner the better. Tick Tock Jaffa
 

davek said:
If Benitez gets sacked like this then the cleaning of house stops and the "Everton That" era rumbles on untouched and still crippling the club.

I dont want that and neither should any Evertonian.

The players - clear them out.
The coaches - clear them out.
The remainder of the board - clear them out.
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Then there's the other side of the coin. The megalomaniac Benitez tears everything down and sets himself up as the linchpin of the club. He will bring in yes men to replace those he has ousted and will still be a tactically bereft manager totally unsuited to modern football, inevitably he will be sacked and the club will be in turmoil because all that will be left are the Benitez appointed yes men.

You have a very odd idea of what 'any Evertonian' should want. Benitez needs to go rapidly, then a new DOF or CEO who are both competent and empowered need to be appointed and come up with a short list of possible coaches. The owner should employ one of these candidates and let the DOF, CEO and coach get on with running the club.

This won't happen overnight, so, the first step is get shut of Benitez and appoint an interim manager to run things until the end of the season, by which time the CEO, DOF and coach should have been identified and in place to start next season.

Stability, is your watchword when defending Benitez, then you condone the idea of him ripping the place apart, hardly stability. You can't have it both ways Dave, Benitez can never bring stability to this club He is also a very limited manager these days.
 
Evertonthat said:
I'd love us to get something out of the next two games, but I just cant see it. I just wonder if the Board have a plan in place or not. Now Brands has gone, are they all in on Benitez? Are they too scared to bin him off before the January transfer window?
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I fear that that is the case.
 
Evertonthat said:
I'd love us to get something out of the next two games, but I just cant see it. I just wonder if the Board have a plan in place or not. Now Brands has gone, are they all in on Benitez? Are they too scared to bin him off before the January transfer window?
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I am not sure how 'all in' they are given that there isnt going to be much money to spend in January. Who or what does Benitez intend to bring in when he hasnt the funds to buy players?

Sell our best players to fund some purchases - possibly. Would antagonise the fan base furher, although no one at the club (bar Kenwright, maybe) has a problem with Benitez taking a wrecking ball to everything, it seems.
 
davek said:
Ridiculous claims based on those.

Goals scored from set pieces down...do you think our best header of the ball who scored most of the 14 all last season not being available for all but 3 ganes had something to do with less goals being scored from feee kicks? Maybe?

As for goals conceded from set pieces, we are not rock bottom we are on 7 making us 13th in the league (and the absence of DCL from our own box impacts that) compared to 13 conceded last season making us 8th in the league.

You cant even read your own stats.
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Didn’t Benitez bring in a striker this Summer that was designed to be good at scoring from set pieces?
 
The poor results can be attributed in part to Benitez, team selection, subbung, tactics but look to the players.

For me they can be split into 4 categories -

1 Can;t be boffered just keep giving me my pay.

2 Crap.

3 Past my sell by date.

4 Good.
 

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